Bex flips the script and puts Michelle in the hot seat. We get into the messy middle: pivoting from acting to construction to podcasting, the burnout that forced a reset, money honesty, why community matters, and how to build something you care about without losing your mind (or your keys).Key takeawaysYou don’t need to burn it all down to pivot—build the bridge while you’re still on it.Self-awareness is a double-edged sword; pair it with action and data, not doom-scroll metrics.Ask for help. Community is a strategy, not a weakness.Defiance gets you to the start line; consistency gets you to the finish.“Enough” is a number and a feeling—separate business goals from ego.Use “What’s the evidence?” to challenge your inner critic (and your hype).Purpose = entertain + storytelling + empower — let it steer decisions.Stoicism (and tiny proofs) beat perfectionism.Women: price your value like “the average white guy” energy you joked about—confident and clear.IRL > online: in-person conversations and live shows build loyalty faster than another Zoom.Timestamps00:00 Tables turn—Bex takes the host chair; why new listeners need Michelle’s backstory03:30 Regret & return: film/directing dreams, auditions, and circling back to storytelling06:30 The hard truth about building a show: ups/downs, data over dopamine13:10 Counting the invisible work: two episodes, a shoot, kids, and keeping perspective17:40 The email exercise that changed everything (friends define you at your best)19:30 From geography grad to construction—“fake it till you make it” and finding your edge23:10 Burnout → pivot to podcasting; choosing the hardest thing on purpose28:30 Learning from guests (Tim Ferriss vibe) and stitching lessons into tools for listeners (great mid-roll slot)31:45 Seasick on a fishing boat: why terrible days make great stories36:00 Marathon mindset: hubris vs. habits; micro-wins beat impulse39:15 ADHD, dopamine, and doing the boring bits your future self needs50:00 Stoicism, Ryan Holiday, and the “Daily proof > daily mood” approach52:00 What “winning” means now; the three-word filter: entertain, storytelling, empower55:10 Clothing with meaning vs. “just merch”; why the brand has to feel like a tribe56:30 What’s next: live shows with community Q&A; collab with Laura (BRB)58:40 Why in-person beats Zoom for deeper conversations and loyal audience60:40 “Advice to 12-year-old me”—stop hiding, say yes, learn out loud67:00 Money, fear, and finding your “enough” line77:45 Kill comparison; use evidence; keep going—then keep going again Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
