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【聊了什么The What】 在“女权疲劳”与“woke倦怠”之后，美国流行文化正在经历一场“女性气质”的回潮（Vibe Shift）：保守女性气质重新流行起来。本期节目我们深入聊了姐妹会文化、MAGA美妆、还有TikTok上那些看似“非政治”的倡导健康生活的视频，是如何一步步把女性重新绑回“温柔、克制、顺从”的模子里，在无形中复活了反女性主义的观念。从阿拉巴马大学的 Bama Rush 现象到 Sydney Sweeney 的“cool girl”形象，这场Vibe Shift不仅是审美的变化，更是一种政治与文化的再编码，当流行文化把政治意识形态与个人价值混为一谈，什么样的女性故事被放大，又有哪些被抹去？ As part two of our Vibe Shift Trilogy, this episode dives into the return of conservative femininity in American pop culture today. We dive into pop culture moments such as Bama Rush, MAGA beauty trends on TikTok, the rise of wellness influencers and how their “apolitical” content is quietly reviving anti-feminist ideals of the olden days. The vibe shift isn’t just about aesthetics, but a recoding of culture and politics. In this shift, we question what kinds of stories of womanhood get amplified — and which are erased? 【时间轴 The When】 1:30: Sydney Sweeney 牛仔裤广告的争议，保守派审美的回归 8:00 “男人圈” vs “女人圈” 文化是如何通过健身、美容等“非政治”话题，随后逐渐渗入反女性主义和厌女的意识形态。 11:20 女人圈的健康类头部播客如何散播保守女性主义，“健康 = 美丽 = 道德” 14:20 自由派女性叙事倦怠，保守叙事趁虚而入 23:48 从Bama Rush大学姐妹会文化来看美国南方保守主义的女性理想 38:44 保守叙事下新一代女性的人生理想是如何变成寻找值得依靠的伴侣 1:30 Sydney Sweeney and her jeans/genes and the return of the conservative femininity 8:00 – “manosphere” vs “womanosphere” cultures use seemingly non-political topics like fitness and beauty to gradually introduce anti-feminist and misogynistic ideologies 11:20 – top women’s health podcasts in the “womanosphere” spread conservative femininity, promoting the idea that “Health = Beauty = Morality” 14:20 – Fatigue with liberal female narratives opens the door for conservative messaging 23:48 – Examining ideals of Southern conservative femininity through Bama Rush and Greek life 38:44 – The reinvention of the feminist ideal: securing a reliable partner and what that means for society 【拓展链接 The Links】 社会学家Anne Helen Petersen关于Bama Rush的文章，链接 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 这期节目我们聊了Ari Aster的最新电影《爱丁顿》(Eddington)——一部让人看完想骂街，但又忍不住要深度分析的作品。这位以《仲夏夜惊魂》和《遗传厄运》闻名的导演，这次把镜头对准了2020年5月疫情初期的美国小镇，用西部片的外壳包装了一个关于社交媒体如何撕裂社群的恐怖故事。Joaquin Phoenix饰演的老派警长Joe Cross和Pedro Pascal饰演的自由派市长在这个巴掌大的新墨西哥小镇展开政治对决，而真正的赢家却是那个从头到尾都面目模糊的科技巨头——他们要在这里建数据中心。我们从这部极具争议性的电影聊开去，探讨了BLM运动的社交媒体化、取消文化的游戏规则、以及阴谋论如何在小镇邻里间传播。最终发现，当所有人都在网上吵成一团的时候，真正的危机——AI和大科技公司——已经悄悄占领了现实世界。 This episode we dove into Ari Aster's latest film "Eddington"—a movie that'll make you want to throw things at the screen, but also can't stop you from obsessively analyzing every frame. The director behind "Midsommar" and "Hereditary" sets his sights on a fictional small American town during the early pandemic chaos of May 2020, wrapping a horror story about social media tearing communities apart in Western film genre. Joaquin Phoenix's old-school sheriff Joe Cross goes head-to-head with Pedro Pascal's liberal mayor in this tiny New Mexico town, while the real winner turns out to be the faceless tech giant that's been planning to build a data center there all along. We used this deeply polarizing film to unpack everything from how BLM got weaponized on social media, to the toxic rules of cancel culture, to how conspiracy theories spread like wildfire through small-town neighbor networks. The ending is both alarming and defeatist: while everyone was busy fighting online, the real crisis—AI and Big Tech—had already quietly taken over. 【时间轴 The When】 00:00 - Vibe Shift：从Covid到现在的时代精神转向 02:32 - Ari Aster这一次拍了个什么片？ 06:45 - 小镇警长和自由派精英的对决导演拉偏架了吗？ 15:45 - BLM运动的社交媒体化和"good trouble"的商品化 22:22 - 社交媒体游戏规则如何让所有人"吃相难看" 34:24 - 创伤如何成为舆论场的货币 38:55 - 小蓝的"假新闻田野调查" 45:19 - 电影结局的虚无主义倾向 48:19 - "SolidGoldMagikarp"彩蛋 52:18 - AI数据中心对美国小镇的真实影响 58:02 - 艺术家有权创作"残忍"艺术吗？ 1:10:00 - 爱丁顿里的真实社会议题 00:00 - Vibe Shift: Zeitgeist transformation from pandemic to now 02:32 - Film plot overview: Political showdown in a New Mexico town 06:45 - Did Ari Aster put his thumb on the scale in the fight between the sheriff and the mayor 15:45 - The social media-ization of BLM and commodification of "good trouble" 22:22 - How social media rules make everyone look bad 34:24 - How trauma becomes currency in the discourse 38:55 - Xiao Lan's "fake news field research" 45:19 - The film's nihilistic ending 48:19 - "SolidGoldMagikarp" Easter egg 52:18 - Real impact of AI data centers on American small towns 58:02 - Do artists have the right to create "cruel" art? 1:10:00 - Real social issues plaiguing today's America in "Eddington" 【拓展链接 The Links】 Film Colossus关于"Solid Gold Magikarp"异常标记的分析文章 纽约时报关于数据中心对社区用水影响的报道 Naomi Klein《Doppelganger》 Matthew Yglesias"The Great Awokening" 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买杯咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 这个夏天，我们无数次的跟人解释：Netflix的Kpop猎魔女团虽然设定听起来很扯，但真的是好看的。顶流女团的真实身份是猎魔人，而她们的竞争对手（非常工具人的）男团则是一群真正的恶魔，用歌声和粉丝量争夺人类灵魂。我们从这部作品聊开去，探讨它如何超越了新时代的迪士尼公主叙事，创造了一个有工作的、更具代入感的当代女性童年幻想的寄托：和最好的朋友住在一起，拥有穿不完的漂亮衣服，人生最大的困难是和朋友的互相不理解。在一定程度上，对小朋友可能有点太幼稚，但对疲惫的我们正中要害。同时我们也回顾了过去十年 K-Pop 的全球化，从 BTS 在疫情期间的爆红到 Blackpink 登上 Coachella 主舞台；好像体感上今年夏天真的不一样，他们说的“韩流闯美”或许真的来了？ This summer, we found ourselves repeatedly explaining to people: like, yes, Netflix’s K-pop Demon Hunters sounds ridiculous on paper, you might even feel ridiculous watching the first 20 minutes — but it’s actually really good. The setup? A top girl group is secretly made up of demon hunters, while their rivals—the boy band—are literal demons battling for human souls through their music and fandom numbers. We used this show as a jumping-off point to explore how it goes beyond the new-generation Disney princess narrative to create a more relatable modern female fantasy—one where you live with your best friends, have endless fabulous outfits, and your biggest challenge in life is misunderstandings between friends. It might feel childish to some, especially for kids, but for us—burned out adults—it hit the emotional sweet spot. We also looked back on a decade of K-pop global expansion, from BTS’s meteoric rise during the pandemic to Blackpink headlining Coachella. This summer feels different. Maybe the “Korean Wave” going global is actually happening? 【时间轴 The When】 00:39 - 奇幻首尔里用歌声封印恶魔的猎魔女团HUNTRIX。 10:28 - 立体的女性友谊和工具人男团 18:35 - K-pop产业的理想化呈现 21:26 - 从《降世神通》到现在亚裔创作者主体性的增强 27:14 - 保护我们的童年幻想和天经地义的女性友谊 42:34 - Kpop在欧美市场主流化了吗？ 00:39 - HUNTRIX: A demon-hunting girl group sealing demons with songs in a fantastical Seoul 10:28 - Deep female friendships vs. the “utility tool” boy band 18:35 - The idealized portrayal of the K-pop industry 21:26 - From Avatar: The Last Airbender to the growing agency of Asian creators 27:14 - Protecting our childhood fantasies and the naturalness of female friendship 42:34 - Has K-pop gone mainstream in Western markets? 【拓展链接 The Links】 58 “BTS之父”套现4000亿：韩娱教父的资本骗局遭政治狙击 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 HBO 新片Mountainhead是《继承之战》编剧 Jesse Armstrong 的导演初作。这一次，他把镜头从东海岸的传媒财阀转向了西海岸的科技巨头。 四位科技界巨头和曾经的好友在犹他州的豪华山庄度周末，外面的世界却因一款 AI 生成工具制造的政治假新闻陷入混乱。他们坐在山顶的别墅中，讨论着权力、技术与人类未来，以及如何延长自己的生命，甚至抵御死亡，上传意识。节目中，我们谈到了科技精英的傲慢与脆弱、有效加速主义（e/acc）在硅谷的兴起、从 All In Podcast 到特朗普就职典礼的科技圈政治野心，以及为什么现实比电影还科幻，却让创作者越来越难以讲述。从HBO关于科技的剧集大火的Silicon Valley到这部同样关于讲述科技圈内部故事的Mountainhead只有短短几年过去了。而太多改变已经发生。 Mountainhead, HBO’s new film, marks the directorial debut of Succession writer Jesse Armstrong. This time, he shifts the camera from East Coast media dynasties to West Coast tech titans. The story follows four former friends and tech moguls spending a weekend at a luxury mountain estate in Utah, while the outside world descends into chaos—triggered by political disinformation generated by an AI tool they helped create. From the comfort of their hilltop villa, they debate power, technology, the future of humanity, and how to prolong their own lives—even resisting death by uploading their consciousness. In this episode, we talk about the arrogance and fragility of tech elites, the rise of Effective Accelerationism (e/acc) in Silicon Valley, the political ambitions of the tech world—from the All-In Podcast to Trump’s inauguration—and why reality has become more sci-fi than fiction, making it harder than ever for creators to tell these stories. Only a few years separate HBO’s Silicon Valley and Mountainhead, but in that short span, the world—and tech—has changed in ways no one could have scripted. 【时间轴 The When】 03:39 我们最喜欢的编剧把我们的推特故事线拍成电影了 08:15 四位主角是如何“缝合”现实中的硅谷大佬们？ 15:56 硅谷意识形态的转变：从商业逻辑到宗教信仰 32:29 科技大佬的权力渴望与“大教堂”、“创始人主权”、“Luxury Belief” 42:30 渴望权力，却又想逃避责任的Tech Bro文化 54:29 警惕权力的新外衣与我们应有的警惕 03:39 Our favorite screenwriter turns our Twitter storylines into a movie 08:15 How the four protagonists are “stitched together” from real-life Silicon Valley moguls 15:56 The ideological shift in Silicon Valley: from business logic to religious belief 32:29 Tech elites’ thirst for power: “The Cathedral,” “Founder Sovereignty,” and “Luxury Beliefs” 42:30 The Tech Bro dilemma—craving power while dodging responsibility 54:29 The new disguise of power and why we must remain vigilant 【拓展链接 The Links】 小华提到的漫画：“参议院的老板们”——1889 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 Apple TV+ 的新剧The Studio《片场风云》是一个意想不到的亮点。它是Seth Rogen创作的剧集，是一部用讽刺和结构解构整个娱乐工业的黑色喜剧。这个剧也是近年以来我们看过的最生动、最好笑、最让人尴尬、最不怕自黑的剧集。它还精准还原了电影内容行业的虚荣和危机和在这样畸形结构中的人如何自处，以及让我们去思考当下的影视工业的在科技行业和流媒体的冲击下，未来会是怎样。另外来自小蓝的抱歉：我的录制环境特别差，对不起大家座机音质！ Apple TV+'s new show The Studio is an unexpected highlight. It's a Seth Rogen-created show, a dark comedy that deconstructs the entire entertainment industry with satire and structure. The show is also one of the most vivid, funny, cringe-inducing, and unafraid of self-hatred episodes we've seen in recent years. It also accurately restores the vanity and crisis of the movie content industry and how people in such a monstrous structure can live with themselves, as well as making us think about what the future of the current movie and television industry's will look like in light of the tech industry and streaming media. 【时间轴 The When】 03:59 我们为什么喜欢《片场风云》Why are we obsessed with the studio 07:14 展开说说 The Oner（第二集2）Let’s dive into the Oner (ep 2) 14:52 我们对Matt Remick怎么看? Is the studio head a hapless hero? Diving into Matt Remick’s character 17:20 千禧一代掌权成为草台班子本台的困境 When the millennial worker becomes an executive 23:42 《片场风云》的女配角们 The fantastic supporting ensemble of the Studio 35:52 Kool-aid Movie和文化IP The Kool-aid Movie and what it says about IP movies 39:50 Kool-aid Movie 选角与电影中的政治正确 how to balance ‘wokeness’ in casting 46:24 金球奖 The Golden Globes episode 49:54 危及好莱坞存在的才是真正的反派 Who’s the real villain threatening the film industry? 52:52 好莱坞何去何从？Where does Hollywood go from here? 【拓展链接 The Links】 纽约客讲《芭比》的文章 “The Studio” Pokes Fun at Hollywood’s Existential Struggle 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 《安多》第二季是星球大战宇宙中一部独特的作品，它没有光剑、原力或天选之人，而是聚焦于帝国边缘的小人物和官僚体系的裂痕。这部剧通过四个三集的故事单元，逐步构建了一个关于帝国如何被推翻的叙事，最终无缝衔接到电影《侠盗一号》。 革命的本质是什么？它需要什么样的代价和牺牲？从卢森的马基雅维利式的组织者形象，到帝国完美官僚的非人性，再到太空法国的群众运动，《安多》探讨了反抗与压迫、个人与集体、理想与现实之间的复杂关系。 Andor Season 2 is a unique work in the Star Wars universe that features no lightsabers, Force powers, or chosen ones, instead focusing on marginalized characters and the imperial bureaucracy. The series tells the story of how the Empire was overthrown, showcasing the desperation of ordinary people, cracks within the Empire, and the real cost of rebellion. As "a prequel to a prequel" of the original Star Wars trilogy, Andor Season 2 ends by seamlessly transitioning into the film Rogue One, revealing these characters' ultimate fates. The show explores several thought-provoking themes: Is the nature of revolution romantic idealism or bloody reality? How does the Empire's propaganda machine justify colonization and genocide through stereotypes and inciting hatred? How do characters like Luther and Dedra represent different facets of revolution and oppression? Perhaps most importantly, in an age of rampant social media where everyone claims to possess "the truth," how can we discern the reality of history? 【时间轴 The When】 00:00:00 介绍安多第二季，解释它在星战宇宙中的独特地位 00:01:40 安多作为星战宇宙中的奇特存在，没有光剑和原力，聚焦底层人物 00:06:52 太空法国：探讨帝国如何通过宣传和刻板印象为毁灭Gorman星球正名 00:11:15 Gorman事件：以及社交媒体时代的"真相"困境 00:26:01 Luthen，以及革命者如何成为他所憎恨的对象的映照 00:36:18 帝国官僚Dedra 00:47:32 安多：一个被写不进正史的英雄 00:52:37 必须得给安多留个孩子吗？？ 00:00:00 Introduction to Andor Season 2, explaining its unique place in the Star Wars universe 00:01:40 Star Wars with no lightsabers or Force 00:06:52 "Space France" - how the director transforms a historical footnote into the emotional core of the series 00:18:51 Reflecting on parallels between the Gorman massacre and real-world events, and the dilemma of "truth" in the social media era 00:26:01 Luthen: how a revolutionary becomes a reflection of what he hates 00:36:18 Dedra character analysis: Empire turns people into tools 00:47:32 Andor: a hero who won't make it into official history 00:52:37 Discussion of the series ending: does Andor need a kid? 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 疲惫娇娃来戛纳电影节了！本期节目发自南法，娃们五天集中看了快二十部电影，本期节目和大家分享我们看片（工作）的心路历程，我们心中的金棕榈影片，以及当今世界电影创作的一些思考。本节目录制于5月22日，此刻我们还有三部电影没看，包括毕赣的《狂野时代》。更多戛纳趣闻，新闻发布会内容，以及最后一天观影的影评，请关注我们的小红书！ Your favorite CyberPink gals reporting live from the Cannes film festival! We watched almost 20 movies in the span of 5 days, the range was truly from highest to lowest. In this episode we unpack all the movies by category, highlight our Palme d’Or picks, and muse on the current state of the world and the stories that films are telling. This episode was recorded on May 22nd, so it does not include our reviews for the final day of films. Please head over to our Xiaohongshu for these additional reviews and extra behind the scenes content! 【时间轴 The When】 00:00 我们在戛纳的感受和吐槽 06:05 “戛纳影评人口碑解禁” 《风林火山》翻了个大的 09:15 我们此次看过的18部电影大致分成四类 10:33 第一类：”法西斯主义不行“；巴西电影《密探》影评 13:50 反抗极权的老登埃及电影《共和之鹰》影评 16:37 我们心中的金棕榈选手伊朗电影《普通事故》影评，极有力量的作品 27:00 第二类：”女性生命体验“；意大利电影《外面》影评 31:57 斯嘉丽·约翰逊演而优则导的第一部作品”Elenor the Great” 影评 35:47 日本女导演早川千惠关于家庭、死亡的电影《雷诺阿》影评 37:44 西班牙女导演卡拉·西蒙关于寻亲的半自传电影《朝圣》“Romeria”影评 43:12 求求导演再剪一个版本出来—《花漾少女杀人事件》影评 48:44 讲述波兰保姆故事的以色列电影《妈妈》和感官电影《阿尔法》 50:09 第三类：“成瘾物质“；让我们意外非常喜欢的法国电影《陨石》影评 53:47 一句话影评《时光留声》谢谢太太找两个帅哥把BL文拍成电影 54:10 一句话影评哥伦比亚电影《诗人》，意外喜欢的细糠 55:06 第四类：一些风格化电影和商业片《天国与地狱》，《幸福之路》，《腓尼基阴谋》 56:05 关于极化公共讨论的美国电影《艾丁顿》影评 58:05 金棕榈二号种子关于家庭、艺术、原谅的挪威电影《情感价值》，细糠！推荐！ 00:00 first impressions and rants about Cannes film festival 06:05 “Cannes reviews embargo lifted” — Juno Mak’s Sons of the Neon Night crashed and burned 09:15 The 18 films we watched can be roughly grouped into four categories 10:33 Category 1: “Fascism is bad” — Review of Brazilian film The Secret Agent 13:50 a movie about resisting authoritarianism, but too much of an old man “know-it-all” POV — Review of Egyptian film Eagles of the Republic 16:37 Our personal Palme d'Or pick — Iranian film by director Jafar Panahi, A Simple Accident, a powerful work 27:00 Category 2: “Women's life experiences” — Review of Italian film Fuori 31:57 Scarlett Johansson’s directorial debut Elenor the Great 35:47 Japanese director Chihiro Hayakawa’s film on family and death Renoir 37:44 Semi-autobiographical Spanish film about searching for family — Romería by Carla Simón 43:12 Begging this director to release a new cut — Review of Girl on Edge 48:44 Israeli film Mama about a Polish nanny, and the sensory experience of Alpha 50:09 Category 3: “Addictive substances” (substance abuse) — Surprise favorite: French film Meteor 53:47 One-sentence review: History of Sound — Thanks to the director for casting two hot guys to make a BL film 54:10 One-sentence review: Colombian film Un Poeta — unexpectedly liked this subtle gem 55:06 Category 4: the “other” category, including highly stylized and commercial films — Highest to Lowest, Lucky Lu, Phoenician Scheme 56:05 Review of American film Eddington, about the polarization of public discourse 58:05 our Palme d’Or runner up — Norwegian film Sentimental Value, on family, art, and forgiveness. A gem! Highly recommended! 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【2025戛纳电影节 2025 Cannes Film Festival】 节目开始之前，和大家说一声，疲惫娇娃的几个女的已经空降戛纳参加电影节了！请关注我们的同名小红书账号看来自戛纳的更新。 We have landed in Cannes for the film festival! Follow us on Xiaohongshu for more updates from Cannes. 【聊了什么 The What】 本期疲惫娇娃，我们聊的是2024年的电影Conclave ——一部设定在教皇去世之后、围绕选出新一任教皇展开的电影。在这部由Edward Berger执导、Ralph Fiennes主演的作品中，观众得以窥见那场始终被神秘包围的梵蒂冈教皇选举：密室中的拉票、权力的计算、秘密的揭露，以及制度对个人的塑形与反噬。 我们从电影谈起，延伸到对天主教会体制的讨论：它如何用神圣维系秩序，又如何将改革压制在传统之下。影片中的主角们不仅是宗教人物，更是复杂的政治人类；而那些隐于画面边缘的修女、工作人员，则承载着最深的情感张力与结构性的沉默。 节目中也会提到最近现实中那位“美国出生的教皇”所引发的舆论回响，从中对照出Conclave所描绘的制度困境与文化裂缝。在一个讲求现代化的时代，信仰、怀疑、服从与转变之间的冲突从未停止，反而愈加微妙。在这集播客，我们也借着Conclave，用元视角反思了我们几个主播过去几年的信仰和布道。 In this episode of Cyberpink, we discuss the 2024 film Conclave — a story set in the aftermath of a pope’s death, centered on the secretive process of electing his successor. Directed by Edward Berger and starring Ralph Fiennes, the film offers a rare look inside the Vatican’s cloistered world: backroom deals, power games, hidden truths, and the way institutions shape — and consume — the individuals within them. Starting with the film, we move into a broader conversation about the structure of the Catholic Church: how it uses sacredness to maintain order, and how tradition often suppresses the possibility of reform. The protagonists in Conclave are not just religious figures — they are deeply political beings. And those who remain on the margins of the screen — nuns, aides, staff — carry the film’s quietest, yet most intense emotional weight. We also touch on the recent real-world election of the first U.S.-born pope and the media discourse surrounding it, drawing parallels with Conclave's portrayal of institutional tension and cultural fracture. In a world increasingly shaped by modernity, the conflicts between faith, doubt, obedience, and transformation have only grown more intricate. We also used Conclave as a lens to go meta, to reflect our journeys as long-term podcasters, examining our beliefs and evangelism over the past few years. 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 【时间轴 The When】 00:00 — Conclave电影本影也没想到自己会因教皇方济各逝世而意外获得现实相关性，成为2025年最火的电影 03:50 — 现实中的美国出生的教宗Pope Leo XIV承认在真正的Conclave前也看了电影 04:40 — 什么是“Conclave”？拉丁语意为“上锁的房间”——一种自13世纪起流传至今的选教皇仪式 06:15 — 黑烟与白烟：那些宣布教皇当选的古老烟雾信号，也曾锁门限食以逼出结果 11:30 — 初观感：神秘又幽默，教廷政治竟然有点像校园食堂地缘政治问题？主角Lawrence像一个疲惫又需要收拾烂摊子的VP 19:13 — Lawrence想辞职，前任教皇说他是个“农场经理”而非“牧羊人”——讨论教皇制度管理与灵性角色的张力。疲惫娇娃进入meta状态，反思自己过去几年的信仰和布教 30:30 — 影片中Lawrence的一句台词引发共鸣：“确定性是团结的大敌，是宽容的死敌”——它如何映射当代的分裂与政治疲劳？疲惫娇娃继续meta 50:00 — 位关键女性角色：Sister Agnes，一个在结构之外但洞察深刻的“隐身者”。以及为什么我们要反复说女性角色 01:03:10 — 大结局讨论：一个意想不到的人选成为教皇，我们如何解读这个“神迹”。 00:00 — The film Conclave likely never expected to gain such sudden real-world relevance after the death of Pope Francis, becoming one of the most talked-about movies of 2025 03:50 — In real life, the newly elected U.S.-born Pope Leo XIV admitted he watched Conclave before the actual conclave took place 04:40 — What is a "Conclave"? The term comes from Latin, meaning “a locked room” — referring to the centuries-old papal election ritual that dates back to the 13th century 06:15 — Black smoke or white smoke: the ancient visual signals used to announce papal election results. In earlier centuries, cardinals were even locked in and given limited food to force a decision 11:30 — First impressions: the film is mysterious yet funny. The political dynamics of the Vatican strangely resemble cafeteria geopolitics. The main character, Lawrence, comes across like an exhausted VP cleaning up institutional messes 19:13 — Lawrence wants to resign. The previous Pope calls him a “farm manager” rather than a “shepherd” — sparking a discussion on the tension between institutional maintenance and spiritual leadership. The hosts go meta, reflecting on their own relationship to faith and public engagement in recent years 30:30 — A line from Lawrence resonates: “Certainty is the great enemy of unity, the deadly enemy of tolerance.” The hosts explore how this speaks to contemporary political polarization and collective fatigue — and continue the meta reflection 50:00 — A key female character is introduced: Sister Agnes, a perceptive “invisible” figure operating outside the official structure. The hosts dig into why they keep returning to the role of women in the film 01:03:10 — Final act discussion: an unexpected figure is elected Pope — how do we interpret this so-called “miracle”? 【拓展链接 The Links】 Inside the Politics of the Papal Conclave – The New York Times (May 4, 2025) How a Film About the Pope Became Reality – The New York Times (April 21, 2025) Campaigning for the Papacy? Vatican Grapples With the Unspoken – The New York Times (April 28, 2025) 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!

【聊了什么 The What】 这个四月，疲惫娇娃被邀请去了大城市东京参加两年一度的星战庆典。 这个地表浓度最高的星战粉丝盛会是一个持续了三十多年的文化现象，也是一个迪士尼的商业帝国和星战的跨越多个时代的原生粉丝文化的结合，这次的日本庆典是近几届中规模最大的一届，也在各种细节中致敬了日本的历史和文化。 我们除了在红毯上采访到了巨多明星以外，还有特别多见闻需要和几个女的们yap yap. 所以这期是一集氛围闲聊，主要聊聊阿花和一芳在庆典中的见闻。我们聊了星战粉丝群体的多元化和演变、庆典现场的独特氛围和活动安排、庆典中的重磅官宣（新电影、瑞恩·高斯林等等！）、与《曼达洛人》和《安多》主创及主演的采访体验、星战IP与日本文化的交融等等…… 另外这一期的许多提到的和明星们的面对面采访视频都在我们的同名小红书发布了。请大家在小红书上关注我们！《安多》第二季也开播了！欢迎大家点这里回顾我们聊第一季的节目！ In mid-April, CyberPink was invited to Tokyo Japan, to attend Star Wars Celebration! It was our first time at this iconic gathering of all fans across galaxies, but Star Wars Celebration has been around since the late 1990s. It’s a testament to the multi-generational and organic nature of being a Star Wars fan, but also goes to show the commercial prowess of Disney (which acquired LucasFilm in 2012). This year’s celebration in Japan was the largest in recent years and paid tribute to Japanese history and culture in many subtle ways. Your favorite gals got to join the press line and interview your favorite stars, but that’s not all! In this episode, the gals who went spill the tea with the other gals on what exactly went down at Star Wars Celebration 2025. We talk about the evolving diversity of the Star Wars fanbase (and movies), the unique vibe and programming at the event, major announcements (New movies! New shows! Ryan Gosling!), what it was like interviewing the creators and stars of The Mandalorian and Andor, how the Star Wars IP merges with Japanese culture, and more… Additionally, many of the face-to-face interview videos with celebrities mentioned in this episode have been posted on our Xiaohongshu account with the same name. Please follow us on Xiaohongshu! Andor Season 2 has also premiered! Feel free to click here to revisit our episode where we discussed Season 1! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 【时间轴 The When】 00:01:10 为什么会被邀请参加？星战庆典背景 00:02:30 星战粉丝群体的演变与自我认知 00:04:23 参与者非常多元化，各个年龄层都有；场地巨大，分为不同展台和舞台；光剑到处都是 00:16:30 “妈妈我们出息了”之红毯采访体验：我们和所有大明星们都聊了一遍天 00:20:06 高司令要进入星战宇宙了 00:27:00 近年星战故事的焦点变化：不再只关注原力/绝地，普通角色戏份增加，《安多》和《曼达洛人》中的风暴兵也很可怕。从“将军的故事”到“生灵的故事” 00:31:07 Pedro Pascal（佩德罗·帕斯卡）采访：关于他的“守护者”角色（《最后生还者》和《曼达洛人》） 00:35:25 回到日本之行与星战文化交融；文化挪用与互相启发/融合的讨论，中国所扮演的角色 00:47:47 迪士尼的商业模式：虽然看起来是粉丝主导的聚会，背后是迪士尼强大的垂直整合商业帝国。通过提供沉浸式体验和产品，巩固其地位 00:50:10 粉丝选择哪个IP是购买选择，是为多巴胺和身份买单 00:53:00 海登·克里斯滕森与安纳金：作为“美强惨”杨过，在东亚女性粉丝中非常受欢迎 00:57:15 下届星战庆典预告：2025年星战50周年，将在美国洛杉矶举办 00:01:10 How did we get invited? What is Star Wars Celebration? 00:02:30 The evolution of the Star Wars fandom and self-perception 00:04:23 Fans from all ages and across the world attended; the venue was massive and divided into various stages, booths, and exhibition space; Lightsabers were everywhere 00:16:30 “Mom, we made it!” Red carpet interview experience: We got to chat with all the major stars 00:20:06 Ryan Gosling is joining the Star Wars universe 00:27:00 The shift in Star Wars storytelling focus: No longer just about the Force or Jedi — more screen time for everyday characters. Even stormtroopers have personalities. From “stories of generals” to “stories of ordinary beings” 00:31:07 Interview with Pedro Pascal: On playing “protector” roles 00:35:25 Return to the fusion of Japan and Star Wars culture; Cultural appropriation vs. mutual inspiration and the role China plays 00:47:47 Even though the celebration feels fan-led, it’s backed by Disney’s powerful vertically integrated empire. Through immersive experiences and products, they’re reinforcing their dominance 00:50:10 Choosing a fandom/IP is like a purchase decision: It’s about paying for dopamine — and identity 00:53:00 Hayden Christensen as Anakin: As the “beautiful, strong, tragic” type, he's especially beloved by East Asian women fans 00:57:15 Teaser for the next Star Wars Celebration: 2025 will mark the 50th anniversary of Star Wars, and the celebration will be held in Los Angeles, USA 【拓展链接 The Links】 Star Wars Celebrations 官网 《安多》第一季的节目！ 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!

【疲惫广播 What's New】 上周疲惫娇娃的花酱和一芳受邀参加了在东京举办的星战盛典，请大家移步小红书看我们的精彩采访和现场直击！ 《安多》第二季也即将开播！欢迎大家点这里回顾我们聊第一季的节目！ 【聊了什么 The What】 「白莲花度假村」第三季是今年在美国极具文化影响力的一部剧集，由HBO出品，Mike White（麦克白）导演编剧并且制作。第三季将故事转移至泰国，铺垫了整整八集沉重气氛给天堂版的背景增添了一丝诡异和不详。北卡莱罗纳州Ratliff家族的表面光鲜与内里腐朽；Rick与Chelsea这对灵魂伴侣背后隐藏的深渊；三位闺蜜之间那微妙平衡的友谊和人生；第一季返场人物Belinda与Greg/Gary的命运再度交织；所有人物的结局都像一场精心设计的因果轮回。 在这个看似奢华的度假天堂里，每个人都被困在自己的身份牢笼中无法脱身。当暴力事件最终爆发，我们是否能从这些角色的命运中看到自己的影子？信仰的缺失是否就是现代人痛苦的根源？这部剧巧妙借鉴佛教寓言，融入业力、痛苦之源贪嗔痴等等概念，为观看的我们提供了一面审视自我的镜子。 这集播客小蓝和一芳请来朋友阿点一起聊聊这部让我们和全网观众欲罢不能的电视剧。 注意：本节目完全剧透！我们在讨论中尽量让没看过的听众也能听懂。如果你已经看过可以跳过梗概，如果还想看而且介意剧透建议收藏，之后再听。 "The White Lotus" Season 3 is one of the most culturally influential series this year, produced by HBO and directed, written, and produced by Mike White. The third season moves the story to Thailand, building up a heavy atmosphere over eight episodes that adds a touch of the strange and ominous to the paradise-like setting. The seemingly perfect but inwardly corrupt Ratliff family from North Carolina; the abyss hidden behind the "soulmate" relationship of Rick and Chelsea; the delicately balanced friendship and lives of three girlfriends; the intertwined destinies of Season 1 returning characters Belinda and Greg/Gary - all characters' endings seem like a carefully designed karmic cycle. Compared to the previous two seasons, the third season is more of a philosophical journey about identity, desire, and redemption, drawing on the director's own research and thinking about Buddhism, skillfully incorporating concepts such as karma and the three poisons (greed, anger, and delusion) into the plot, providing us with a mirror to examine modern society and human nature. In this podcast episode, Xiaolan and Yifang invite their friend Adian to discuss this TV series that has made us and viewers across the internet unable to stop watching. Note: This episode contains complete spoilers! We try to make our discussion understandable to listeners who haven't seen the show. If you've already watched it, you can skip the plot summary; if you still want to watch and mind spoilers, we suggest bookmarking this episode to listen to later. 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 【时间轴 The When】 00:03:43 看过的可以跳过：剧透警告与人物介绍 00:08:42 白莲花这一季和往季的区别，观影第一印象 00:18:08 全网出圈的《白莲花度假村》梗，杜克大学“紧急公关” 00:25:23 三位闺蜜：女性友谊背后的嫉妒、理解和爱；为什么Laurie那段话让我们哇哇大哭 00:35:02 美国南方老钱核心家庭的光鲜和腐朽 00:53:43 Rick和Chelsea，救赎与被救赎的佛教寓言 01:20:51 第三世界男性与第一世界女性的权力关系 01:26:39 麦克白的创作意图：不以道德说教为目的的叙事 00:03:43 You can skip if you've already watched: Spoiler warning and character introductions 00:08:42 Discussing how this season of White Lotus differs from previous seasons, and first impressions 00:18:08 Viral White Lotus memes, Duke University's “emergency PR response” 00:25:23 The three girlfriends: jealousy, understanding and love in female friendships; why Laurie's speech made us ugly cry 00:35:02 Troubled Southern old-money nuclear family and sibling dynamics 00:53:43 Rick and Chelsea, a Buddhist parable of redemption and being redeemed 01:20:51 Power dynamics between Third World men and First World women 01:26:39 Mike White's creative intentions: narrative without moral preaching 【拓展链接 The Links】 020 | 「白莲花度假村」：出淤泥而全染的人间群像 "The White Lotus 2": a scan of reality 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【听众专属福利】 一起订阅《三联生活周刊》数字刊会员年卡吧！ ? 疲惫娇娃专属渠道粉丝下单享受六折优惠?

【聊了什么 The What】 「A Real Pain」是由我们很喜欢的杰西·艾森伯格（Jesse Eisenberg）编剧和导演的一部电影，讲述了两位性格迥异的表兄弟David（由艾森伯格饰演）和Benji（由基兰·卡尔金饰演）为纪念他们已故的祖母而一同前往波兰参加犹太传统之旅的故事。在波兰旅行期间，他们不仅探访祖母童年的家，还参观了华沙犹太区英雄纪念碑和马伊达内克集中营等历史遗迹。 这部电影像是一个隐形的视角，带着我们，跟堂兄弟俩一起走完了波兰黑暗之旅，电影中讨论了人的痛苦，或大或小，都同样真实——不仅是大屠杀的集体创伤，还有每个人无法消解的痛苦。 我们在这集播客聊了这部电影，以及几个女的如何思考和化解痛苦与创伤。 "A Real Pain" is a film written and directed by Jesse Eisenberg (who we kinda have crush on), telling the story of two cousins—David (played by Eisenberg) and Benji (played by Kieran Culkin)—who travel together to Poland on a Jewish heritage tour to honor their late grandmother. During their Polish journey, they visit their grandmother's childhood home and historical sites including the Warsaw Ghetto Heroes Monument and Majdanek concentration camp. The film offers an intimate perspective, following the cousins through Poland's “dark tour.” It explores how pain—whether monumental or mundane—is equally real for those experiencing it, addressing not only the collective trauma of the Holocaust but also each person's unresolvable individual suffering. In this episode, we discuss the film and how we, as women and friends, process and work through pain and trauma. 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 【时间轴 The When】 00:01:00 电影介绍，这俩人演堂兄弟，证明我们在正确的宇宙次元 00:08:43 从一则弹窗广告被启发，到把"黑暗之旅"搬上银幕，这个电影可能是Jesse Eisenberg想了一辈子的故事 00:11:15 聊一聊集中营和火车的那段戏，PTSD，工业化屠杀 00:25:30 如何在巨大的犹太人屠杀的历史创伤中，理解个人的痛苦？从David和Benji中，转向我们对痛苦的理解 00:37:50 痛苦被倾诉后能不能被化解？这部电影是否有给我们一个答案 00:47:51 创伤叙事：国家主义和个人之间的冲突 00:01:00 Film introduction, these two actors playing cousins confirms we're in the right universe 00:08:43 From inspiration via a pop-up ad to bringing a "dark tourism" story to screen—this film may be the story Jesse Eisenberg has wanted to tell his entire life 00:11:15 Discussion of the concentration camp and train scenes, PTSD, and industrialized genocide 00:25:30 How to understand personal pain within the context of the enormous historical trauma of Jewish genocide? Moving from David and Benji toward our own understanding of suffering 00:37:50 Can expressing pain help resolve it? Does the film offer us an answer? 00:47:51 Trauma narratives: conflicts between nationalism and individual experience 【拓展链接 The Links】 傷痛與觀看：淺談「黑暗觀光」──林潤華 Personal Visit to Majdanek Extermination Camp 活出生命的意义 (Chinese Edition) 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!

【聊了什么 The What】 《影后》是一部深入探讨女性友谊、职场关系和娱乐圈现实的台湾剧集。通过几位不同年龄阶段女演员的视角，该剧以META的方式反映了台湾娱乐业的变迁与挑战。 这不只是一部简单的"宫斗剧"，而是一部贴近现实的职场剧。剧中几位中年甚至老年女性角色的感情和人际关系发展，展现了人生不同阶段的成长可能性。薛亚之与周凡的关系打破了观众对角色与演员的刻板印象，也把女性之间嫉妒和爱并存的关系刻画的十分细腻。 我们聊到了从琼瑶剧到偶像剧再到现代台剧，这些不同时期的台湾影视作品如何塑造了我们对爱情和生活的理解。《影后》作为新一代台剧，不只讲述了演艺圈的故事，也折射出社会对女性期望的变化，成为台湾文化界照见自己的一面镜子。 “Born for the Spotlight” is a Taiwanese drama series that deeply explores female friendships, workplace relationships, and the realities of the entertainment industry. Through the perspectives of actresses at different age stages, the series reflects the changes and challenges of Taiwan's entertainment industry in a meta way. This isn't just a simple "palace drama," but a workplace drama that closely mirrors reality. The emotional and interpersonal relationship development of several middle-aged and even elderly female characters in the show demonstrates the possibilities for growth at different stages of life. The relationship between Xue Yazhi and Zhou Fan breaks viewers' stereotypes about characters and actresses, and also portrays the coexistence of jealousy and love between women with great subtlety. We discussed how Taiwanese media from different periods—from Chiung Yao dramas to idol dramas to modern Taiwanese series—have shaped our understanding of love and life. "The Actress," as a new generation of Taiwanese drama, not only tells the story of the entertainment industry but also reflects changing societal expectations of women, becoming a mirror for Taiwan's cultural industry to see itself. 【本期嘉宾 Guest】 东尼，行星酒馆主播（一个在动荡时代里，分享离散故事的华语播客。） 【五月天购票链接】 今年3月29日，五月天成团25周年“回到那一天”演唱会将登陆拉斯维加斯忠实体育场（Allegiant Stadium）。这是五月天北美巡演的唯一一场，请记住，是唯一一场，也是华语歌手在北美开唱的最大规模和最高规格。演出将斥资千万美金打造，从巨型五球华丽舞美，到环场巴士，带你体验原汁原味的五月天魅力。 3月29日这个日子也很特别，是五月天正式成军的纪念日。从七号公园初次登场的那个三月，到拉斯维加斯五万人共享的星空，我们一起坐上时光机，穿越回忆任意门，体验一趟精彩万分的旅程，回到属于你和五月天的那一天。 无论你来自哪个国家，无论你是听着五月天歌长大的老粉，还是刚刚喜欢上他们音乐的新粉，这场演唱会，都不容错过。 请访问iemshowplace.com或Ticketmaster，或点击这个链接购票锁定席位： 购票链接：点击这里 VIP套餐还包含专属观赏区、快速通道和限量纪念礼包，值得收藏。 加入五月天，永远不会太迟。 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 【时间轴 The When】 00:03:54《影后》如何处理群像，一个松散的女演员”圈子“ 00:11:20 胖姐为什么戳中了我们的泪点 00:13:48 柯丽芬和TB迟来的道歉和原谅 00:22:28 周凡和薛亚之之间不被行业和社会支持的非性缘共生关系 00:34:10 欧美和东亚女演员的“角斗场” 00:35:06 史爱玛的性格刻画的好吗？她的问题是太年轻太想要吗？ 00:45:26 《影后》又新又旧的感情和婚姻观念 00:51:33 台湾娱乐的文化产品怎么养大了我们，构筑了我们的感情观 00:58:50 大S去世与我们摄入信息时代的变迁 01:05:35 新的时代让我们获得了什么、失去了什么 01:07:58 大小S以及台娱“又新又旧”的黄金时代 00:03:54 How "Born into the spotlight" handles its ensemble cast, a loose "circle" of female actresses 00:11:20 Why the "pangjie" character touched our heartstrings 00:13:48 Ke Lifen and TB's belated apology and forgiveness 00:22:28 The non-sexual symbiotic relationship between Zhou Fan and Xue Yazhi that isn't supported by the industry or society 00:34:10 The "arena" for Western and East Asian actresses 00:35:06 Is Shi Aima's character well-portrayed? Is her problem that she's too young and too ambitious? 00:45:26 "Born into the spotlight" and its modern and traditional views on relationships and marriage 00:51:33 How Taiwan's entertainment cultural products raised us and built our views on relationships 00:58:50 Barbie Tsu's passing and the changes in how we consume information 01:05:35 What the new era has given us and what we've lost 01:07:58 Barbie and Dee Hsu, and the "both new and old" golden era of Taiwanese entertainment 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!

【聊了什么 The What】 《影后》是一部深入探讨女性友谊、职场关系和娱乐圈现实的台湾剧集。通过几位不同年龄阶段女演员的视角，该剧以META的方式反映了台湾娱乐业的变迁与挑战。 这不只是一部简单的"宫斗剧"，而是一部贴近现实的职场剧。剧中几位中年甚至老年女性角色的感情和人际关系发展，展现了人生不同阶段的成长可能性。薛亚之与周凡的关系打破了观众对角色与演员的刻板印象，也把女性之间嫉妒和爱并存的关系刻画的十分细腻。 我们聊到了从琼瑶剧到偶像剧再到现代台剧，这些不同时期的台湾影视作品如何塑造了我们对爱情和生活的理解。《影后》作为新一代台剧，不只讲述了演艺圈的故事，也折射出社会对女性期望的变化，成为台湾文化界照见自己的一面镜子。 “Born for the Spotlight” is a Taiwanese drama series that deeply explores female friendships, workplace relationships, and the realities of the entertainment industry. Through the perspectives of actresses at different age stages, the series reflects the changes and challenges of Taiwan's entertainment industry in a meta way. This isn't just a simple "palace drama," but a workplace drama that closely mirrors reality. The emotional and interpersonal relationship development of several middle-aged and even elderly female characters in the show demonstrates the possibilities for growth at different stages of life. The relationship between Xue Yazhi and Zhou Fan breaks viewers' stereotypes about characters and actresses, and also portrays the coexistence of jealousy and love between women with great subtlety. We discussed how Taiwanese media from different periods—from Chiung Yao dramas to idol dramas to modern Taiwanese series—have shaped our understanding of love and life. "The Actress," as a new generation of Taiwanese drama, not only tells the story of the entertainment industry but also reflects changing societal expectations of women, becoming a mirror for Taiwan's cultural industry to see itself. 【五月天购票链接】 今年3月29日，五月天成团25周年“回到那一天”演唱会将登陆拉斯维加斯忠实体育场（Allegiant Stadium）。这是五月天北美巡演的唯一一场，请记住，是唯一一场，也是华语歌手在北美开唱的最大规模和最高规格。演出将斥资千万美金打造，从巨型五球华丽舞美，到环场巴士，带你体验原汁原味的五月天魅力。 3月29日这个日子也很特别，是五月天正式成军的纪念日。从七号公园初次登场的那个三月，到拉斯维加斯五万人共享的星空，我们一起坐上时光机，穿越回忆任意门，体验一趟精彩万分的旅程，回到属于你和五月天的那一天。 无论你来自哪个国家，无论你是听着五月天歌长大的老粉，还是刚刚喜欢上他们音乐的新粉，这场演唱会，都不容错过。 请访问iemshowplace.com或Ticketmaster，或点击这个链接购票锁定席位： 购票链接：点击这里 VIP套餐还包含专属观赏区、快速通道和限量纪念礼包，值得收藏。 加入五月天，永远不会太迟。 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 【时间轴 The When】 00:03:54《影后》如何处理群像，一个松散的女演员”圈子“ 00:11:20 胖姐为什么戳中了我们的泪点 00:13:48 柯丽芬和TB迟来的道歉和原谅 00:22:28 周凡和薛亚之之间不被行业和社会支持的非性缘共生关系 00:34:10 欧美和东亚女演员的“角斗场” 00:35:06 史爱玛的性格刻画的好吗？她的问题是太年轻太想要吗？ 00:45:26 《影后》又新又旧的感情和婚姻观念 00:51:33 台湾娱乐的文化产品怎么养大了我们，构筑了我们的感情观 00:58:50 大S去世与我们摄入信息时代的变迁 01:05:35 新的时代让我们获得了什么、失去了什么 01:07:58 大小S以及台娱“又新又旧”的黄金时代 00:03:54 How "Born into the spotlight" handles its ensemble cast, a loose "circle" of female actresses 00:11:20 Why the "pangjie" character touched our heartstrings 00:13:48 Ke Lifen and TB's belated apology and forgiveness 00:22:28 The non-sexual symbiotic relationship between Zhou Fan and Xue Yazhi that isn't supported by the industry or society 00:34:10 The "arena" for Western and East Asian actresses 00:35:06 Is Shi Aima's character well-portrayed? Is her problem that she's too young and too ambitious? 00:45:26 "Born into the spotlight" and its modern and traditional views on relationships and marriage 00:51:33 How Taiwan's entertainment cultural products raised us and built our views on relationships 00:58:50 Barbie Tsu's passing and the changes in how we consume information 01:05:35 What the new era has given us and what we've lost 01:07:58 Barbie and Dee Hsu, and the "both new and old" golden era of Taiwanese entertainment 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!

【聊了什么 The What】 重大发现：一月是星期一。大家多喝水。 Main takeaways: January is Monday. Stay hydrated. 【听众专属福利】 一起订阅《三联生活周刊》数字刊会员年卡吧！ ? 疲惫娇娃专属渠道粉丝下单享受六折优惠? 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么 The What】 2024年初，日本记者伊藤诗织发布的纪录片《黑箱日记》以其私密的镜头语言和坦诚的叙事方式，记录了她从2015年遭遇性侵，到2017年实名举报，再到近年来推动日本性暴力相关法律变革的漫长历程。这部纪录片不仅是一份个人的创伤记录，更是对日本社会性别议题的深度剖析：警方的敷衍了事，媒体的冷漠反应，路人对受害者的污名化，和伊藤诗织站出来为自己和更多沉默者发声的巨大勇气。 这期节目中，小蓝与嘉宾探讨了这部纪录片所呈现的复杂现实：一个女性记者如何在追求新闻专业主义的同时，不得不把自己的创伤经历变成公共讨论的一部分；为什么在日本这样的民主社会，年轻女性却如此缺席性别议题的公共讨论；以及在整个东亚地区，女权运动如何在各自的政治文化背景下寻找突破。从警察机构到司法体系，从传统媒体到新媒体平台，从个人抗争到集体行动——，我们如何在时代的重重局限下突出重围，追求系统性变革的可能？ In early 2024, Japanese journalist Shiori Ito released her documentary "Black Box Diaries," which uses intimate cinematography and candid storytelling to chronicle her long journey: from experiencing sexual assault in 2015, to publicly reporting it in 2017, and her subsequent efforts to reform Japan's sexual violence laws in the following years. The documentary is not just a personal record, but also a deep analysis of gender issues in Japanese society - showing the police's perfunctory handling of her case, the media's indifferent response, public stigmatization of victims, and Ito's immense courage in speaking up for herself and other silent survivors. The episode features discussions between Xiaolan and guests about the complex realities presented in the documentary: how a female journalist must balance professional journalism while being forced to turn her traumatic experience into part of public discourse; why young women are so notably absent from public discussions of gender issues in a democratic society like Japan; and how feminist movements across East Asia navigate breakthroughs within their respective political and cultural contexts. From law enforcement to the judicial system, from traditional media to new media platforms, from individual resistance to collective action - how can we break through the limitations of our time to pursue systemic change? 【参与人员 The Who】 小蓝：疲惫娇娃主播、媒体工作者 弦子：女性主义者、发声者、写作者 兆音：调查记者、BBC纪录片“追查「痴汉」——谁在售卖日本性侵偷拍影片”制作人 林珊：珊越拾穗的主播、科尔比学院访问助理教授 Xiaolan: Host of CyberPink, media professional Xianzi: Feminist activist, writer Zhaoyin: Investigative journalist, producer of the BBC documentary "Catching a Pervert: Sexual Assault for Sale" Lin Shan: Host of "Shan Yue Shi Sui," visiting Assistant Professor at Colby College 【时间轴 The When】 00:00:58 《黑箱日记》的故事背景 13:47 伊藤的记者与性侵幸存者双重身份 20:57 纪录片中最私密的时刻：用镜头记录自己的创伤 41:05 日本社会的性别困境：为什么支持伊藤的多是年长女性？**更正：日本学运发生在60年代末 * 52:12 记者作为性暴力受害者 01:11:38 日本的政治冷感与女权运动 01:21:39 从个案到制度：日本性暴力相关法律的变迁与局限 01:30:44 东亚女性的共同命运：如何在父权制度下寻找发声与改变的可能 00:00:58 The story behind "Black Box Diaries" 13:47 Meeting Ito: the journalist and the survivor 20:57 The intimacy of documenting your own trauma 41:05 Japan’s gender problem: Why are Ito's supporters mostly older women?* *Correction: the Japanese university student protests happened in the late 1960s * 52:12 Journalists as survivors 01:11:38 Political apathy and the unique path of feminist movements in Japan 01:21:39 Driving systemic change: The evolution of Japan's sexual violence laws 01:30:44 Finding our voice under east asian patriarchy 【拓展链接 The Links】 寫在日本《刑法》性犯罪修正案與《同志法案》通過之後 https://changyuchieh.com/2023/06/16/gay-law/ BBC紀錄片：追查「癡漢」——誰在售賣中國日本性侵偷拍影片－ BBC News 中文 抓住那个“痴汉”文章 BBC纪录片《猎食者：日本流行音乐的秘密丑闻》 法庭外的12小時，弦子訴朱軍案開庭首日 文章 神圣无花果之种 电影 Girls Will Be Girls 电影 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 Sean Baker导演的《Anora》讲述了一个布鲁克林性工作者阿诺拉将信将疑地踏上现代版灰姑娘的南瓜马车，却没想到渡过了人生最疲惫的24小时加班的故事。2024年的我们和Anora一样，都心知肚明在当代的美国，老套“救风尘”的故事已经是一个骗局。在我们看来，这是一个细腻而富有共鸣的故事。Baker和演员一起塑造了一个狡黠的、天真的、完全能为自己做主的年轻女孩，故事中的细节：无论是南布鲁克林的景观、Anora东欧移民的背景、还是电影中年轻人真诚的愚蠢，让这个故事能够打动哪怕是我们中最愤世嫉俗的人。结局的那一刻，Anora和我们都明白，那辆充满寓言意味的南瓜马车并非跨越阶级的虫洞，一切落幕之后，Anora获得了可能比钻石戒指更珍贵的东西 — 看清了自己是谁以及她能做到什么。终章之处，南瓜马车驶过，留下的不是阶级虫洞的幻影，是比钻戒更为珍贵的馈赠——Anora在这场冒险中看到了真实的自己，大起大落之后她并没有失去为自己挣出未来的无限可能。 Sean Baker's latest film "Anora" follows a Brooklyn sex worker who steps into a modern-day Cinderella story, only to find herself enduring the most exhausting few days of her life. In 2024, both we and Anora know full well that the classic "Pretty Woman" narrative is a sexist and tiresome trope. But Baker manages to tell a nuanced, relatable story through Anora. The specificity of it — Southern Brooklyn's landscapes, her immigrant background, and the genuine innocence and naivety of youth — allows this story to warm the heart of even the most cynical among us. In the end, the proverbial pumpkin carriage isn't an invitation to cross class lines, but a journey of self-realization. 本期节目由【大人糖】赞助播出。新的一年即将来临，假期旅游成本高，那不如先尝试一下大人糖家的新品拂悦？ This episode is sponsored by the female sexual wellness brand OSUGA. Tune in to hear our thoughts on their newest sex toy "Osurging." ?【听众专属福利】 对大人糖新品感兴趣的朋友们，可通过以下2种方式获得专属优惠，拂悦原价359元，领券后到手价299元，备注【疲惫娇娃】还可额外赠送99元大礼包，同时之前推荐的小海豹和兔子月这次也可享专属优惠价哦，具体可以点击链接查看详情哦✌ 点击这里跳转或复制这整段口令【97￥TEDQ3zak3zU￥】到淘宝领专属优惠券，下单直接满减 淘宝搜索【大人糖旗舰店】，私信客服，报暗号【疲惫娇娃】领专属券下单 ?重要提示！ 1、下单时记得一定要备注【疲惫娇娃】才会随单一起送出礼包哦！ 2、部分苹果手机是最新系统的听友可能会遇到口令无法跳转的情况，选择第2种方式购买也可以 另外！考虑到我们有部分海外听众，可通过点击➡ Osuga，下单输入优惠码【疲惫娇娃】可立减15%，但到手价格&优惠政策与国内不同享哦，有需要的朋友们可以自由选择 【时间轴 The When】 00:08:41 导演Sean Baker的独特视角:边缘人群的故事 00:13:41 安妮 vs. 阿诺拉: 脱衣舞娘与东欧移民的两个面向 00:32:27 性工作在不同文化语境下的讨论差异 00:42:21 天真与成长:安妮对辛德瑞拉式爱情的幻想与觉醒 00:48:54 Vanya的童真与残忍:一个未长大的富二代形象 00:56:52 Igor的复杂性:暴力与温情并存的打手 01:07:37 结尾镜头的突破和深意 00:08:41 Sean Baker's Unique Perspective: Stories from Society's Margins 00:13:41 Ani vs. Anora: Dual Perspectives of a Stripper and Eastern European Immigrant 00:32:27 Sex Work: Cultural Context Differences 00:42:21 Innocence and Growth: Ani's Cinderella Fantasy and Awakening 00:48:54 Vanya's Childlike Cruelty: Portrait of an Immature Trust Fund Kid 00:56:52 Igor's Complexity: The Enforcer's Balance of Violence and Tenderness 01:07:37 The Final Shot's Deeper Meaning 【拓展链接 The Links】 [红莺歌 Red Canary Song] (https://www.redcanarysong.net/) Mikey Madison Declined an Intimacy Coordinator on ‘Anora,’ but Professionals Say There Should Always Be One: Actors and Directors ‘Can’t Speak for How Every Extra Felt’ 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 Netflix的这韩国综艺《黑白大厨：料理阶级大战》以其独特的"阶级对决"设定，将韩国美食界的精英与草根厨师置于同一个舞台，从产业内不同厨师的故事讲起，给了我们一张韩国餐饮业在2024年当下的切片。 在这期播客中，疲惫娇娃的主播和嘉宾周成荫老师展开了一场关于美食、文化和身份认同的深度对谈。如何能把一档美食综艺拍成惊心动魄的《鱿鱼游戏》（虽然没有看到鱿鱼料理）？为什么韩国人眼里的正宗中餐是我们觉得有点过时的老牌江浙菜？米其林体系下的美食标准真的有普适性吗？ “Culinary Class Wars,” Netflix’s latest hit cooking show, masterfully stages a compelling clash between 80 “black spoons” chefs against 20 industry-acknowledged “white spoons”, and offers a fascinating snapshot of Korea’s latest culinary landscape. In this episode, our hosts and our guest Prof. Eileen Chow dived into a conversation about competitive reality TV, food, culture, and identity. How does a cooking show manage to channel a level of intensity that rivals “Squid Games” but sadly without a single squid dish in sight? Why does the Korean perception of authentic Chinese cuisine what we consider old-school glazy Jiangzhe classics? Can the Michelin standards, rooted deeply in the European culinary tradition, truly serve as a universal measure of culinary excellence? Tune in to find out. 【时间轴 The When】 03:39 "黑汤匙"与"白汤匙"之争：看似阶级对立，实则并非泾渭分明 29:56 厨房里的性别困境：为什么女性大厨总是被特殊对待 38:14 韩综如何平衡真实性与戏剧效果 52:53 Edward Lee的身份认同困惑与突破 01:02:53 为什么节目里的中餐都是江浙菜系主导 01:08:44 全球化背景下的本土美食认同 03:39 Gamifying the class tension in the culinary world 29:56 The female chef’s dilemma 38:14 Making cooking feel like high drama 52:53 Edward Lee: A Korean-American chef searching for identity 01:02:53 Why Jiangzhe food shaped the perception of Chinese food in korea 01:08:44 Local flavors as anchor of identity 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 今年是不是加了速？ 在时间的加速阴谋下，四个女的照例录制了一期秋季氛围检查。然而，等到节目剪出来要写文案的时候，已经是十一月初（？怒录一期冬季氛围检查然后回家过年）。 每年的十月份、十一月份、和挤满节日的十二月，都像是一个星期中消耗速度最快的周末。我们期待它们，但是它们也在宣告着时间在以不可思议的速度流逝的事实。下一年的音乐会排期已经出来了，时尚圈也开始宣告2025春季和夏季的trends——这些穿插在社交媒体和我们邮箱中的图片、讯息、数字、速朽的标题和色彩，都让人产生一种时间错位感。 每期的氛围检查我们都基本上100%脱稿，想哪说哪，想聊什么就聊什么。这期也是一样的闲聊风格。我们聊了身处在美国社会对于大选的“逃避”，最近读了什么书，我们对于年龄和身体感知的感悟。还有一些乱七八糟想哪说哪的话题。 各位娃们11月快乐！ Has time been accelerating this year??? Under the conspiracy of time's rapid passage, four of us gathered as usual to record our fall vibes check. By the time we finished editing and about to drop this episode, well, it was already early November… October, November, and holiday-packed December always feel like the fastest-passing weekend of a week. We look forward to them, yet they also declare the undeniable fact that time flows at an unforgiving speed. Next year's concert schedules are already out, the fashion world has begun announcing trends for spring and summer—these images, messages, numbers, ephemeral headlines, and colors interweaved throughout our social media and emails create a sense of temporal displacement: when is this? As with all our vibe checks, we kept this episode 100% unscripted, speaking freely of our stream of consciousness. We have been "avoidant" of this election (as we all live in the US), we discussed some books we've read, and as usual, this episode is packed with various random stuff uttered from our mouths. Happy November, everyone! 【时间轴 The When】 03:05 十月约等于星期五，十一月约等于星期六 08:00 四个女的在关注大选吗？对于这场选举的心态发生了哪些变化？ 15:10 四个女的最近在看什么剧 39:55 （一个关于年龄的感慨）“身体表达”逐渐变成了不一样的概念，和身体的关系在逐渐变化 52:35 （又一个关于年龄的感慨）我到底应不应该更成熟？我应该如何对待所谓的晚辈？ 59:50 （还是一个关于年龄的感慨）“成功”是个模糊且主观的概念 01:03:50 从美剧聊到投行，以及我们如何看书、听书 03:05 October feels like a Friday, November feels like a Saturday 08:00 Are four of us following this election? (NO) How have our attitudes towards this election evolved? 15:10 What shows are we watching lately? 39:55 (Reflections on age) "Physical expression" takes on new meaning as our relationship with our bodies evolves 52:35 (More thoughts on aging) Should I be more mature? How should I interact with younger generations? 59:50 (Yet another age-related musing) "Success" is an ambiguous and subjective concept 01:03:50 From TV shows to investment banking; how we read books and listen to books 【拓展链接 The Links】 Outliers: The Story of Success) Nexus: A Brief History of Information Networks from the Stone Age to AI Industry) Father Ted Trust) 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【买咖啡 Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm 【聊了什么The What】 最近的几个月里，一个穿越了中国和美国的超级文化现象是《黑神话：悟空》这款游戏。 我们几个女的其实除了一芳之外都不怎么玩游戏，但是为了去理解《黑神话：悟空》之后的文化现象，小蓝决定一头闯进这个游戏的宇宙。女性游戏玩家在参与游戏的时心路历程是怎样的？魂系游戏如何在我们沉浸在游戏剧情的时候，让我们感知到自己的主体？ 魂系游戏的魅力在哪里？什么才是所谓的硬核玩家？女的玩游戏这一路上到底挨了多少骂？ 当很多人把《黑神话：悟空》的出海热潮视为国产文化的输出巅峰，却出现了关于团队厌女言论的争议，我们如何去理解类似的游戏行业持续的厌女现象？我们请来了两个在游戏界工作的女的一起和我们聊聊《黑神话：悟空》，梳理了Gamergate 1.0 和2.0的始末，分享了对于游戏的态度。 本期嘉宾： 游戏设计师、策展人和写作者杨静 在北美游戏业界工作也是游戏爱好者Jing “Black Myth: Wukong” is China's first so-called "AAA" blockbuster video game, and CyberPink gals are here to talk about it. We haven't discussed gaming before, as none of our hosts (other than Yifang) are avid gamers, but we couldn't pass up the opportunity to join the discourse around this cross-cultural phenomenon that's the game of the summer (or dare we say, year). To fully understand the hype around "Black Myth: Wukong," all participants in this episode played the game. Especially Xiaolan who decided to jump right into the Wukong universe, as a new gamer. Along with our two guests who are both gaming industry professionals and passionate gamers, we discuss the psychological journey of female gamers as they engage with the game. Is "Black Myth: Wukong" considered a Soulslike game, and if so, how do Soulslike games allow us to perceive our agency while we're engrossed in the game's narrative? While many view the commercially successful "Black Myth: Wukong" as a pinnacle of Chinese cultural export in recent years, news about misogynistic comments from the development team surfaced. What does this mean for the persistent misogyny in the gaming industry as a whole? We talk about Gamergate 1.0 and 2.0, what it means to be a woman and a gamer, and the gaming community at large. Tune in for a riveting discussion on "Black Myth: Wukong" and more! Our Guests： Game designer, exhibition curator and writer Yang Jing Gaming industry professional and gaming enthusiast Jing 【时间轴 The When】 02:00 几个女的们玩过的那些复古游戏 （你还记得什么是软盘吗？） 33:53 黑神话悟空这个游戏给我们带来的感受 50:45 游戏界的遗憾和诟病：有哪些有毒的鄙视链和偏见 1:02:13 这款游戏是“文化出海”的高度？是“crazy rich asians”现象？ 1:19:00 团队的厌女言论和争议 02:00 Retro games we've played (Do you remember what a floppy disk is?) 33:53 Our first impressions of "Black Myth: Wukong" 50:45 Regrettable aspects of the gaming world: Toxic hierarchies and prejudices 1:02:13 Is this game considered the epitome of Chinese "cultural export"? Is it another "Crazy Rich Asians" phenomenon? 1:19:00 The team's misogynistic comments and the ensuing controversy 【拓展链接 The Links】 相关文章： 《黑神话：悟空》，能力越大 责任越大 风险越大 by 杨静，链接 关于Gamergate 1.0，讲者：Zoey Quinn，链接 IGN关于黑悟空厌女争议的文章 我们的推荐： 山河旅探 解构团队 迪斯科极乐世界 潜水员戴夫 餓殍 博德之门3 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022