To work to change a system, you have to understand it first. But as today’s guest will show you, it turns out our understanding of American patriarchy is completely different than what we thought it was. Today I sat down with Anna Malaika Tubbs –– two-time New York Times bestselling author, sociologist, and storyteller with a PhD in sociology and a master's in gender studies from the University of Cambridge, plus a BA from Stanford (whew!) — and we're talking about American patriarchy. We get into why the Founding Fathers and the Constitution are inherently patriarchal, what history actually teaches us about how change happens, and why Anna wasn't surprised by Trump's reelection. I threw out almost every prepared question because this conversation was that good. This episode will make you furious and hopeful in the same breath. Anna’s links: Website: http://annamalaikatubbs.com   Erased by Anna Malaike Tubbs:  https://bookshop.org/a/90037/9781250876690  The Three Mothers by Anna Malaika Tubbs: https://bookshop.org/a/90037/9781250756138  Also mentioned in this episode: Steve Phillips, How We Win the Civil War: https://bookshop.org/a/90037/9781620978481 Sarah McBride on Why the Left Lost on Trans Rights | The Ezra Klein Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlbNFsAGFRc  Bookshop.org website:  http://Bookshop.org  Not sure what to do with your money? Visit ⁠https://herfirst100k.com/ffpod⁠ and take our FREE Money Plan Quiz to get your personalized money plan, and find any resources mentioned on our show   00:00 Intro 01:40 What "American patriarchy" actually means 06:37 The Founding Fathers' blueprint  15:21 The tug-of-war at the center of all American history 19:19 Why Trump's re-election wasn't a surprise 25:10 How slow progressive change actually works 31:55 Do all roads lead back to patriarchy? 36:04 "We haven't arrived anywhere new" 45:28 Moving rights to the states: a repeating tactic 52:48 Can you get rich in a system that wasn't built for you? 58:51 The power you already have Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices