We thought we'd celebrate hitting 3,000 Instagram followers as some sort of milestone in this crazy journey to cultivate much-needed honesty in the music industry! Every follower, every listener we connect with feels like a little headway in making change in the culture. In this episode, we take some time to look back on our podcast journey so far, reminiscing about how we became a duo and how TMDTA has grown over the past 4 years. Thanks to questions from our listeners, we also reflect on our personal experiences with mental health, music schools, and our hopes about what has changed since we were school pupils. We ponder on the challenges of giving and receiving feedback in musical workplaces, as well our continuing commitment to being transparent about our struggles and aiming to bring others' stories to light. Thanks for being here with us and here's to our ever-expanding community ❤️ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now supported by the Royal Society of Musicians! Follow them on Instagram, X and Facebook.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Support TMDTAWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon from £1 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaFeeling generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-aboutFind TMDTA on all the socials at @tmdtapodcast------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Hosts: Hattie Butterworth & Rebecca ToalEditor: Rebecca ToalMusic: Katy Ehrlich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of Things Musicians Don't Talk About, Becca sits down with Chloé van Soeterstède in her dressing room at the Royal College of Music. Chloé shares her personal experiences of working as a musician alongside pregnancy and then motherhood. She walks us through her journey - from figuring out with her manager when might be the best time to get pregnant, to performing while visibly pregnant and giving birth naturally with the aid of mental preparation. Chloé also opens up about challenges like pumping breastmilk between rehearsals on tour and traveling internationally with a newborn, and making sure to be honest about her capacities through such a huge life transformation. Becca and Chloé emphasise how rare and important it is for musicians to discuss the realities of pregnancy and parenthood, and Chloé’s honest and candid story provides a much-needed glimpse into navigating this challenging but rewarding career stage.Follow Chloé on Instagram and witness more of her brilliant honesty!Check out her website and on X------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------We always love to hear from our listeners, and if you like the show why not recommend to a friend or leave a review?------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now supported by the Royal Society of Musicians! Follow them on Instagram, X and Facebook.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Support TMDTAWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon from £1 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaFeeling generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-aboutFind TMDTA on all the socials at @tmdtapodcast------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Hosts: Hattie Butterworth & Rebecca ToalEditor: Katy EhrlichMusic: Katy Ehrlich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Another chatty episode for you lovely lot! This was recorded for our last Voices radio slot in February 2023. Hattie and Becca chat about queerness in classical music, exploring our opinions on the films Tár and Maestro, and how we feel power dynamics and hero-worship were portrayed in them. As we've seen over the past few decade or so, teacher-student relationships can be such a dangerous environment if those positions of authority are abused, and so we take a further look into what exactly it is about them that musicians don't talk about and why.We always love to hear from our listeners, and if you like the show why not recommend to a friend or leave a review?------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now supported by the Royal Society of Musicians! Follow them on Instagram, X and Facebook.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Support TMDTAWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon from £1 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaFeeling generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-aboutFind TMDTA on all the socials at @tmdtapodcast ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Hosts: Hattie Butterworth & Rebecca ToalEditor: Rebecca ToalMusic: Katy Ehrlich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week we come to you (unintentionally) from the Royal Opera House! We speak with composer, theatre-maker, and journalist Zygmund de Somogyi about growing up with Autism Spectrum Disorder, not fitting in to the classical music world, discovering the world of composing, their experiences of imposter syndrome and feeling disconnected from the world around them. Zyggy is now studying opera composition and discusses how they fell into opera and what it's like to work as an opera composer in the current climate. Thank you to Zyggy for their brilliant honesty and commitment to talk about the things musicians don't talk about.Follow Zyggy on:WebsiteEmail (enquires)Email (press)InstagramXYoutubeSoundcloudJoin us on Things Musicians Don't Talk About for more honest chats about life as musicians. We always love to hear from our listeners, and if you like the show why not recommend to a friend or leave a review?------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now supported by the Royal Society of Musicians! Follow them on Instagram, X and Facebook.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Support TMDTAWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon from £1 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaFeeling generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-about------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Hosts: Hattie Butterworth & Rebecca ToalEditor: Patrick Emeribe Music: Katy Ehrlich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

TW: sexual assault we do discuss an experience of sexual assault/harassment about halfway through the episode so feel free to skip through / give this one a miss <3 We recorded this episode as part of our Voices Radio residency after the hazy summer of 2023. We took a break from the podcast for a couple of months and reflect on our individual experiences of said break. But just because *we were on a break*, doesn't mean our little brains weren't pondering the music biz. What about critics commenting on musicians' bodies and the deeply-engrained societal fatphobia? How do you even write about Maria Callas without talking about her mental health? What about summer depression as a freelancer? What about the expected exhaustion that comes hand-in-hand with youth orchestras and academies? How about sexual assault and the difficult situation that puts the victim in when the perpetrator is a colleague? Join us on Things Musicians Don't Talk About for more honest chats about life as musicians. We always love to hear from our listeners, and if you like the show why not recommend to a friend or leave a review?------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now supported by the Royal Society of Musicians! Follow them on Instagram, X and Facebook.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Support TMDTAWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon from £1 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaFeeling generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-about------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Recorded in September 2023 for Voices RadioHosts: Hattie Butterworth & Rebecca ToalEditor: Rebecca ToalMusic: Katy Ehrlich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A very Happy New Year from us at TMDTA! To kick off 2024, we have an episode recorded waaaaay back last year with the joyous James Partridge. We speak to him about his very unique career, bringing 'primary school bangers' to the masses and what life is like as a social media sensation. Why do these primary school hymns unlock 100% FEELS in us and what does James think about music education? Find out here on Things Musicians Don't Talk About.Follow James on:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamesbpartridge/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jamesbpartridgeWebsite: https://www.jamesbpartridge.com/------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now supported by the Royal Society of Musicians! Follow them on Instagram, X and Facebook.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Support TMDTAWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaFeeling generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-about------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Editor: Rebecca ToalMusic: Katy Ehrlich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On our Voices Radio slot this month, Becca interviewed DJ Jess Hands about her experiences with mental illness and how making music has been a healing distraction from her struggles. We hear her honest account of what it's like to go through mental health crises, bipolar disorder and to get to grips with simultaneously working as a DJ. Jessica's bio:"My name is Jessica Hands, DJ name Jess Hands, a lover for all things bass and wonky sounds. I have bi polar type 1 and BPD, I am here to share my experience to help myself but, also to let me people know its ok to be open and can really help, music has been so healing for me, but of course brings it’s own worries, thank you for the space to share my story and if anyone wants to reach out for advice of course I’m happy to listen and help. ❤️"Jessica's instagram------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now supported by the Royal Society of Musicians!------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Support TMDTAWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaFeeling generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-about------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Follow the Royal Society of Musicians:Instagram: @rsmgbTwitter: @RSMusiciansFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/royalsocietyofmusiciansEditor: Rebecca Toal & @noumaneditsMusic: Katy Ehrlich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome back! This week we speak with astounding trumpet soloist, Simon Höfele, taking a peek behind the scenes of his stunning international career to discuss the reality of it all. We chat about Simon's fortunate journey to becoming a soloist and how his ultimate love is for creating music (especially the contemporary kind), using the trumpet as a tool to achieve that. Simon also works part-time as a very cool hipster barista which he describes almost like 'paid therapy' - a form of distraction and space away from the trumpet to keep him grounded. Stay tuned to find out the piece of music he ranks 'The Most Disgusting' too.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now supported by the Royal Society of Musicians!Follow the Royal Society of Musicians:Instagram: @rsmgbTwitter: @RSMusiciansFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/royalsocietyofmusicians------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Support TMDTAWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaFeeling generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-aboutWant to gift us a Kofi? Click here!------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Editor: Federico (@mixinghacks)Music: Katy Ehrlich------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Follow Things Musicians Don't Talk About on:InstagramXFacebook Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Composer Gavin Higgins found that music was the only thing calmed his severe facial tics as a young kid. After an assessment at the Maudsley Hospital, Gavin was diagnosed with Tourettes and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. He was put on Prozac and told to snap a rubber band on his wrist to take away his intrusive thoughts.A lot has changed in the treatment of mental illnesses, but what's the reality behind living with two severe conditions as an award-winning composer? And why is Gavin so determined to raise awareness? Hattie and Gavin chat in this episode about OCD, Tourettes, generational OCD themes, trauma from writing an opera, the industry as it stands and how things need to change.Find Gavin's website hereAnd his Instagram------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now supported by the Royal Society of Musicians!------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Support TMDTAWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaFeeling generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-about------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Follow the Royal Society of Musicians:Instagram: @rsmgbTwitter: @RSMusiciansFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/royalsocietyofmusiciansEditor: Hattie ButterworthMusic: Katy Ehrlich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's our first sneaky peaky Patreon preview! Welcome through this little creaky door in the paywall to hear 5 minutes of exclusive content that we recorded last Halloween!In this episode, Hattie, Katy and Becca scare the living daylights outta themselves by reading feedback ranging from grade 8 to graduate scheme rejections. We also have a little rant about assessing music as a subjective art form, and Hattie shares a story with us that we had to bleep out because it was too gross. If you fancy accessing the *whole* episode and much more, head to https://www.patreon.com/tmdta!------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now supported by the Royal Society of Musicians!The Royal Society of Musicians is Britain’s oldest music charity and our aims remain as relevant today as they were in the earliest years – to provide vital financial assistance, advice and guidance to those professionally active in the world of music but who are unable to work due to accident, illness, stress or anxiety. Being a charity run by musicians for musicians, we are uniquely placed to fully understand the challenges faced within the profession.Follow the Royal Society of Musicians on:Instagram: @rsmgbTwitter: @RSMusiciansFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/royalsocietyofmusicians------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Support TMDTAWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaGot a few pennies to spare? Buy us a Kofi! https://ko-fi.com/thingsmusiciansdonttalkaboutFeeling extra generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-aboutFollow us on all the socials: @tmdtapodcastEditor: Katy Ehrlich & Rebecca ToalMusic: Katy Ehrlich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This episode is dedicated to Koshka’s wonderful piano teacher, Niel Immelman, who sadly passed away since it was recorded - and who made it all possible.TW// sexual violence and assault, physical assault, police brutalityBecca first came across today's guest when she stumbled upon her collection of essays, Abolishing the Police. Philosophy professor, Koshka Duff (University of Nottingham), was largely inspired to compile this collection of essays on policing, dissent and abolition after her own traumatic experiences with the police. In 2013, when studying a Masters in piano performance at the Royal College of Music, Koshka was arrested after offering legal advice to a teenager undergoing a racist stop and search. She describes how the police assaulted her and left her with physical and psychological damage that continued to impact her life long after the event: she suspended her studies and had to confront the devastating possibility that she may never play the piano again. Koshka was able to return for her final recital a year after the event, and set out on a mission to heal by 'making and making up music' with her band, Stolen Goods, and via a pain management course through the NHS. The injuries left her with chronic pain that she still deals with, though more now as a "companion, rather than always an antagonist."Koshka's album featuring several tracks recorded at her final recitalCD liner notesThe Stolen Goods EP------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now supported by the Royal Society of Musicians!------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Support TMDTAWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaFeeling generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-about------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Follow the Royal Society of Musicians:Instagram: @rsmgbTwitter: @RSMusiciansFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/royalsocietyofmusiciansEditor: Kaileigh EatonMusic: Katy Ehrlich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

For TMDTA's July Voices Radio appearance, Hattie and Becca discuss Lewis Capaldi's Glastonbury set and how this might translate in the classical music world. They also chat about their experiences of saying no as employees and as freelancers, Hattie's new adventures on bass guitar and Becca's new therapist. In the original show, the first half of Paul Denegri's episode played after their discussion, but now you can go and listen to the whole thing wherever you're listening to this episode.Thank you as ever to Voices Radio for this platform, and thank you to you listeners for your ongoing support!The guardian article Becca loved: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/26/lewis-capaldis-glastonbury-set-disability-centre-stageClick here for the transcript------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now supported by the Royal Society of Musicians!The Royal Society of Musicians is Britain’s oldest music charity and our aims remain as relevant today as they were in the earliest years – to provide vital financial assistance, advice and guidance to those professionally active in the world of music but who are unable to work due to accident, illness, stress or anxiety. Being a charity run by musicians for musicians, we are uniquely placed to fully understand the challenges faced within the profession.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Support TMDTAWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaGot a few pennies to spare? Buy us a Kofi! https://ko-fi.com/thingsmusiciansdonttalkaboutFeeling extra generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-aboutFollow us on all the socials: @tmdtapodcast------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Follow the Royal Society of Musicians on:Instagram: @rsmgbTwitter: @RSMusiciansFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/royalsocietyofmusiciansEditor: Rebecca ToalMusic: Katy Ehrlich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Our amazing friend, trumpeter Aaron Akugbo, is about to make his BBC Proms debut with the Chineke! Orchestra - but there's more to his story. Determined to be unapologetic about his identity, Aaron takes us through the weird world of brass 'lad' culture, through to the rise of Black Lives Matter and navigating the brass world as someone facing direct and indirect discrimination for being both black and gay.Discover Aaron on InstagramHis website is here------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now generously supported by the Royal Society of Musicians!The Royal Society of Musicians is Britain’s oldest music charity and our aims remain as relevant today as they were in the earliest years – to provide vital financial assistance, advice and guidance to those professionally active in the world of music but who are unable to work due to accident, illness, stress or anxiety. Being a charity run by musicians for musicians, we are uniquely placed to fully understand the challenges faced within the profession.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Support TMDTAWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaGot a few pennies to spare? Buy us a Kofi! https://ko-fi.com/thingsmusiciansdonttalkaboutFeeling extra generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-aboutFollow us on all the socials: @tmdtapodcast------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Follow the Royal Society of Musicians on:Instagram: @rsmgbTwitter: @RSMusiciansFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/royalsocietyofmusiciansEditor: Katy EhrichMusic: Katy Ehrlich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Becca catches up with her former teacher, Paul Denegri, from his stay in an old farmhouse. The humblest of the humble, Paul takes us through his journey to where he is now: revisiting his unexpected appointment as Head of Brass at Wells Cathedral School; his feelings of imposter syndrome and disillusionment with the freelance musician lifestyle; and staying true to his identity. Paul's trademark openness and warmth is so refreshing in the world of classical music and music education, where prestige and resilience is so often touted as the pinnacle of success.Thank you Paul for being the reason a lot of us from Wells fostered our passion for music and have ended up where we are now.Paul's website: paul denegriPaul on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pauldenegripandonltd/Paul's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pauldenegri/Click here for transcript------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now generously supported by the Royal Society of Musicians!The Royal Society of Musicians is Britain’s oldest music charity and our aims remain as relevant today as they were in the earliest years – to provide vital financial assistance, advice and guidance to those professionally active in the world of music but who are unable to work due to accident, illness, stress or anxiety. Being a charity run by musicians for musicians, we are uniquely placed to fully understand the challenges faced within the profession.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Support TMDTAWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaGot a few pennies to spare? Buy us a Kofi! https://ko-fi.com/thingsmusiciansdonttalkaboutFeeling extra generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-aboutFollow us on all the socials: @tmdtapodcast------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Follow the Royal Society of Musicians on:Instagram: @rsmgbTwitter: @RSMusiciansFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/royalsocietyofmusiciansEditor: Rebecca ToalMusic: Katy Ehrlich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Things Musicians Don't Talk About is now generously supported by the Royal Society of Musicians!The Royal Society of Musicians is Britain’s oldest music charity and our aims remain as relevant today as they were in the earliest years – to provide vital financial assistance, advice and guidance to those professionally active in the world of music but who are unable to work due to accident, illness, stress or anxiety. Being a charity run by musicians for musicians, we are uniquely placed to fully understand the challenges faced within the profession.Episode notes:(Episode recorded for our June Voices Radio show)Before we get to Stu's post-nap's epiphanies, Becca monologues on a recent Instagram Q&A and delves into 'soul-care', doing laptop stuff, missing my eating disorder and practising for a recital. Then we head to the garden to chat with Stu about all things musician. We discuss:getting back up after auditionsspinning the different freelancer platesthe hardest & easiest things about being a musicianbeing in a 'musician couple'what music & podcasts been listening toClick here for transcriptIf you've been affected by any of the issues mentioned in this episode, head to our Resources page for further signposting and support.Support usWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaGot a few pennies to spare? Buy us a Kofi! https://ko-fi.com/thingsmusiciansdonttalkaboutFeeling extra generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-aboutFollow us on all the socials: @tmdtapodcastFollow the Royal Society of Musicians on:Instagram: @rsmgbTwitter: @RSMusiciansFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/royalsocietyofmusiciansEditor: Rebecca ToalMusic: Katy Ehrlich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Tw: Mentions of suicide and it’s preventionIn a society opening up conversations around mental health, suicide is still severely stigmatised and misunderstood. Today we meet pianist Gosia Garska who volunteers at the Listening Place - a charity set up to hold space for people struggling with suicidal thoughts and ideation.We discuss common myths around suicide, as well as how the Listening Place supports those with ongoing struggles. We also hear from Gosia about how work at the Listening Place has changed her life, both as a musician and personally and entering a space of non-judgement when listening to those dealing with thoughts of ending their life.Thank you Gosia for sharing your experience with us 🙏Discover The Listening Place If you've been affected by any of the issues mentioned in this episode, head to our Resources page for further signposting and support.Support usWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaGot a few pennies to spare? Buy us a Kofi! https://ko-fi.com/thingsmusiciansdonttalkaboutFeeling extra generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-aboutFollow us on all the socials: @tmdtapodcastEditor: @kaileigheatoMusic: Katy EhrlichHosts: Hattie Butterworth & Rebecca Toal Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

WE PASSED OUR VOICES RADIO TRIAL! Here's our most recent episode-show where we answer beautiful questions from our Insta followers (thanks you guys!). We chit-chat about our favourite and least favourite memories of TMDTA, Father Christmas and Wendy Christmas, a slightly different origin story of the podcast, the power of sharing our stories on social media, balancing pod commitments, Becca's wet cat and not treating the pod as a job. Thanks again to Voices Radio for giving us another platform to continue breaking down the barriers and talking about the things musicians don't talk about.If you've been affected by any of the issues mentioned in this episode, head to our Resources page for further signposting and support.Support usWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaGot a few pennies to spare? Buy us a Kofi! https://ko-fi.com/thingsmusiciansdonttalkaboutFeeling extra generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-aboutFollow us on all the socials: @tmdtapodcastEditor: Abbeydot - Audio Engineering for Women and LGBTQIA folksMusic: Katy EhrlichHosts: Hattie Butterworth & Rebecca ToalPhotographer: Venetia Jollands Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week we speak with the inspiring Emily Ashton, baroque cellist, viola da gambist and climate activist. Emily is a founding member of XR Baroque, a group of early music environmentalists who perform at Extinction Rebellion protests. We discuss how we process the overwhelm and anxiety that come with thinking about climate change, the murkiness of being a freelance musician and staying true to your beliefs, and the tension between the need for systemic and individualistic change in environmental action.We are so grateful to Emily for talking with such eloquence and gravitas on one of the most important topics.XR Baroque's Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/375287633080945/Check out Extinction Rebellion's website to see how you can get involved: https://extinctionrebellion.ukSupport usWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaGot a few pennies to spare? Buy us a Kofi! https://ko-fi.com/thingsmusiciansdonttalkaboutFeeling extra generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-aboutFollow us on all the socials: @tmdtapodcastEdited by and music composed by Katy Ehrlich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On this episode, Hattie speaks with flautist Kathryn Williams, co-author of the Independent Society of Musicians's (ISM) Dignity at Work 2 study, which looked into the experiences of discrimination among those working in the music sector. They also speak about Kathryn's experiences as a single parent 11 years ago, navigating studying at the Royal Northern College of Music whilst being the sole carer for a 1-year-old.Follow Kathryn on Instagram: @kathrynwilliamsflutesDiscover the ISM hereParents in Performing Arts (PiPA) CampaignClick here for transcriptIf you've been affected by any of the issues mentioned in this episode, head to our Resources page for further signposting and support.Support usWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaGot a few pennies to spare? Buy us a Kofi! https://ko-fi.com/thingsmusiciansdonttalkaboutFeeling extra generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-aboutFollow us on all the socials: @tmdtapodcastEdited by Hattie ButterworthMusic by Katy Ehrlich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of Things Musicians Don't Talk About, Hattie and Becca chat from the cosiness of Hattie's new-ish house and perfect podcasting room. We have a candid conversation about the recent arts cuts and the precarity of freelancing, plus Becca's recent feelings of audition burnout, and how we've both experienced and dealt with (or not dealt with...) performance anxiety in the past.Join us as we break down the barriers and continue to talk about the things musicians don't talk about.(originally recorded for Voices Radio) Click here for transcriptIf you've been affected by any of the issues mentioned in this episode, head to our Resources page for further signposting and support.Support usWant to support us on a regular basis? Consider joining our Patreon for £3 a month: https://www.patreon.com/tmdtaGot a few pennies to spare? Buy us a Kofi! https://ko-fi.com/thingsmusiciansdonttalkaboutFeeling extra generous? Help us raise funds for the podcast: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-musicians-dont-talk-aboutFollow us on all the socials: @tmdtapodcastEdited by Rebecca ToalMusic by Katy EhrlichHosts: Hattie Butterworth & Rebecca Toal Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.