This week I'm joined for another brilliant episode by Humanist Chaplain, James Croft I loved hearing about their story and hope you do too. Luma's newest book "Believe in Them" is available now. Please subscribe, rate and review. Thanks, Suzi xxx And if you want to get in touch with me on the show, here's how... email: hello@outwithsuziruffell.com twitter: @outwithsuzi   A 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising and general enquiries: hello@keepitlightmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices