After more than two decades exploring courage, vulnerability and leadership, Brené Brown’s work has helped millions of people and changed how we talk about shame and belonging. In her latest book, Strong Ground, Brené introduces the idea of “grounded confidence,” a practice of leading with consistency, clarity and courage instead of bravado.  In this episode from the Hello Monday archives, Jessi Hempel sits down with Brené to talk about what it really takes to lead today and why developing human skills like courage and empathy matters more than ever. Jessi and Brené discuss: Why we’ve been “building on dysfunction” at work, and how to stop How to embrace paradox instead of rushing toward certainty Why grounded confidence is a stronger foundation than bravado What leaders get wrong about vulnerability How values clarify choices and protect against resentment Practical ways to set boundaries and build trust Why human skills are the real core muscles of work today Follow Brené Brown and Jessi Hempel on LinkedIn Continue the conversation with us at Hello Monday Office Hours! Join us Wednesday at 3 PM ET, live on Jessi’s page Want more? LinkedIn Premium members can watch an extended version of this interview.