Former US Army Counterintelligence Agent Rick Hoppe returns to the Break It Down Show to talk more spy things with Pete A Turner on the Break It Down Show. Rick's book, Rick is an author. Beyond being a spy, he's a recognized expert in the process of national revolutions. Get Eight Stages: A Primer on Modern Revolution on Amazon at amzn.to/4elORpG Rick and Pete have a lot of time in combat zones. They actually overlapped at one point with Pete leaving-got fired-and Rick coming in to run the team. The CI world is small, but fractured. Two dudes with this level of spy experience are a rare and unique thing.
