When we recorded this episode, we were just supposed to get together and talk through some show topics and logistics, but as Texas Governor Greg Abbot had just issued his “gender-affirming medical treatments constitutes child abuse” letter, we ended up discussing transphobia. Both Jennifer and I were pretty charged up at that moment and somewhat in shock, so while our discussion was very impromptu, it was no less impassioned, which hopefully comes through loud and clear. Given our goal is to create safe spaces for people to engage in discussions, you can guess where we came down on such a heartless, loveless, and vindictive edict.