In this episode, we speak with Corinna Hawkes, Director of Agrifood Systems and Food Safety Division. Corinna explains what it means to transform agrifood systems through a systems approach and why change requires looking beyond individual problems and solutions to the relationships, incentives, and power dynamics that shape our agrifood systems. She draws on examples from Brazil, Sierra Leone, Tanzania, and New York City to show how evidence, governance, collaboration, and long-term thinking can help turn tradeoffs into wider benefits.   Hosted by Katrin Park Produced by Eduardo De La Chica  00:43  What does transforming agrifood systems mean?  03:07  What is a "systems" approach?  03:59  Systems approach v. coordination  07:14  Marketing unhealthy foods to children  10:00  Compromises and aligning incentives  12:13  Navigating powerful interests  15:12  Short election cycles and long-term commitments  21:23  Monitoring transformation  24:32  Systems approach in Sierra Leone  27:05  Co-creating solutions in Tanzania  28:14  Public procurement in New York City  29:33  Corinna's journey  Transcript: https://www.fao.org/media/docs/aboutfaolibraries/transcripts/transcript_corinna-hawkes_260831.pdf