https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Become a patron of this podcast), and enjoy free merch. Join other patrons of this podcast at https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Patreon). ********** Please consider signing https://www.change.org/echochurchNDA (the petition by Echo Survivors) to release former staff at Echo.church from NDAs so they can share their stories and heal. As of this uploading, 1,211 people have signed in support of this NDA free plea. Go to: https://www.change.org/echochurchNDA (https://www.change.org/echochurchNDA) ********** Trigger warning: If you have experienced spiritual abuse, emotional abuse, psychological abuse or any type of abuse, especially in a faith-based environment, this episode deals with content that may be triggering. Please feel free to listen in small chunks or if this is too traumatizing, please feel free to not listen until you are ready. We do recommend speaking with a therapist who is trauma-informed. Please take good care of yourself. Lori and Jason Adams-Brown share their story of spiritual abuse, emotional abuse and psychological abuse at Echo.church in San Jose, CA at the hands of Andy Wood and Filipe Santos. Their story is by no means the worst story of abuse behind the curtain of Echo.church, but it is one that is not covered by the many NDA's that Andy and Filipe had many staff sign over the years in order to control the narrative and image manage the abuse of particular staff over the years. Many former staff have shared their stories, but due to fear of going public and also the many NDA's, there is much fear. This is part one of their story. Articles about the abusive environment at Echo.church: https://religionnews.com/2022/08/01/church-conflict-or-spiritual-abuse-saddleback-echo-wood-driscoll-reyes/?fbclid=IwAR3ugPJIWduKP7iP0yDHvkR7H-eKOPPTXgkdw6WCcFYc084s_URmky4V5l8 (Religion News article) https://julieroys.com/echo-church-defends-ndas-petition-gains-700-signatures/ (Julie Roys's 5th article) (about Echo.church's email on 9/2/22 after the petition to release NDAs at Echo.church garnered nearly 700 signatures) https://julieroys.com/incoming-saddleback-pastor-retaliate-baptist-group-broker-deals/ (Julie Roys's 4th article) https://julieroys.com/saddleback-pastor-predatory-patternacquire-churches-baptist/ (Jule Roys's 3rd article) https://julieroys.com/former-staffers-expose-bullying-rick-warren-successor-andy-wood/ (Julie Roys's 2nd article) https://julieroys.com/alleged-victims-challenge-report-clearing-rick-warren-successor-abuse/ (Julie Roys's 1st article) Lori's appearance as a guest on https://www.politicsandreligion.us/e/loriadamsbrown/ (Talkin' Politics and Religion Without Killin' Each Other podcast) with Corey Nathan. Find books and articles on https://linktr.ee/loriadamsbrown (Lori's linktree) The movie https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1895587/ (Spotlight )features journalists reporting on the years of cover-up of abuse in the Catholic church. Books to read as resources:https://amzn.to/3QybWqS (A Church Called TOV: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing) by Dr. Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer https://amzn.to/3Pyi6pI (When Narcissm Comes to Church): https://www.amazon.com/When-Narcissism-Comes-Church-Community/dp/0830841598/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1OHHBM3HJVQSM&keywords=when+narcissism+comes+to+church&qid=1660797100&s=books&sprefix=When+narci%2Cstripbooks%2C147&sr=1-1 (Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse) by Dr. Chuck DeGroathttps://amzn.to/3QOdXPq (Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church) by Dr. Diane Langberghttps://amzn.to/3CdMuTb (Something's Not Right: )https://www.amazon.com/Somethings-Not-Right-Decoding-Abuse/dp/1496444701/ref=sr_1_1?crid=24BR6WJJ3P8X5&keywords=something%27s+not+right&qid=1660797227&s=books&sprefix=something%27s+not+righ%2Cstripbooks%2C137&sr=1-1 (Decoding...