https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Become a patron of this podcast), and enjoy free merch. Join other patrons of this podcast at https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Patreon). ********** Trigger warning: If you have experienced spiritual abuse, emotional abuse, psychological abuse or any type of abuse especially in a faith-based environment, this episode deals with content that may be triggering. Please feel free to listen in small chunks or if this is too traumatizing, please feel free to not listen until you are ready. We do recommend speaking with a therapist who is trauma-informed. Please take good care of yourself. Lori and Jason Adams-Brown share their story of spiritual abuse, emotional abuse and psychological abuse at Echo.church in San Jose, CA at the hands of Andy Wood and Filipe Santos. Their story is by no means the worst story of abuse behind the curtain of Echo.church, but it is one that is not covered by the many NDA's that Andy and Filipe had many staff sign over the years in order to control the narrative and image manage the abuse of particular staff over the years. Many former staff have shared their stories, but due to fear of going public and also the many NDA's, there is much fear. This is part one of their story. https://religionnews.com/2022/08/01/church-conflict-or-spiritual-abuse-saddleback-echo-wood-driscoll-reyes/?fbclid=IwAR3ugPJIWduKP7iP0yDHvkR7H-eKOPPTXgkdw6WCcFYc084s_URmky4V5l8 (Religion News article) https://julieroys.com/former-staffers-expose-bullying-rick-warren-successor-andy-wood/ (Julie Roys's 2nd article ) https://julieroys.com/alleged-victims-challenge-report-clearing-rick-warren-successor-abuse/ (Julie Roys's 1st article) Lori's appearance as a guest on https://www.politicsandreligion.us/e/loriadamsbrown/ (Talkin' Politiics and Religion Without Killin' Each Other podcast) with Corey Nathan. Books to read as resources:https://amzn.to/3QybWqS (A Church Called TOV: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing) by Dr. Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer https://amzn.to/3Pyi6pI (When Narcissm Comes to Church): https://www.amazon.com/When-Narcissism-Comes-Church-Community/dp/0830841598/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1OHHBM3HJVQSM&keywords=when+narcissism+comes+to+church&qid=1660797100&s=books&sprefix=When+narci%2Cstripbooks%2C147&sr=1-1 (Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse) by Dr. Chuck DeGroat https://amzn.to/3QOdXPq (Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church) by Dr. Diane Langberg https://amzn.to/3CdMuTb (Something's Not Right: )https://www.amazon.com/Somethings-Not-Right-Decoding-Abuse/dp/1496444701/ref=sr_1_1?crid=24BR6WJJ3P8X5&keywords=something%27s+not+right&qid=1660797227&s=books&sprefix=something%27s+not+righ%2Cstripbooks%2C137&sr=1-1 (Decoding the Hidden Tactics of Abuse--and Freeing Yourself from Its Power) by Dr. Wade Mullen The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Join us to discuss this episode, previous episodes or for other thoughtful conversations at our https://www.facebook.com/groups/651922025855936 (Facebook group). We'd love to have you stop by and share your perspective. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live...