This week on Hot Take, Mary and Amy talk to Abrahm Lustgarten about how colonialism, both in the past and the present, put the weight of the climate crisis on the shoulders of the people who did the least to create it. As a lens, they use Abrahm's Propublica investigation of Barbados' (and other Caribbean nations) attempt to navigate the intersection of climate change and debt. This conversation was taped on the anniversary of Hurricanes Katrina and Ida, during devastating floods in Pakistan and Jackson, Mississippi. Go to our full show notes for links on where to donate your support to! Follow us on twitter @RealHotTake and signup for our newsletter at hottakepod.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices