In this interview, you meet Genevieve Smith, an expert in social and organizational change, values alignment and data for social good who is also affectionately known by colleagues and work friends as a “professional bummer”. You’ll learn how and why she has earned that title as we talk about managing difficult conversations about polarizing topics, and how “nothing is neutral”. You’re invited into a vibrant conversation about values alignment, and how to navigate conversations with anyone in a personal or professional light, from your racist uncle to your boss, about issues as complex and deep as racial equality, religion or gender issues. We talk about how “woke shaming” is not a path that serves anyone, and how humor can open people to listen, get over themselves, and connect, even when we don’t agree. We have more in common than we often think, and this episode is a reminder that while “nothing is neutral” we have more common ground than we often think. Genevieve Smith’s Advisory: https://www.gv-advisory.com/ This Month’s Action Page: https://www.caremorebebetter.com/action Share your questions and your stories – connect with us on social platforms or e-mail us at: hello@caremorebebetter.com