In this episode, I chat with Robert Powell who is both a UFOlogist and Chemist. I sought out to interview Robert after I found he was the co-author of the book UFOs and Government alongside a cast of international authors headed by Michael Swords, a retired professor at Western Michigan University with extensive knowledge of UFO history, and managed by Robert Powell, director of research at the Mutual UFO Network. The authors spent more than four years researching thousands of government documents and archives in order to present a work of historical scholarship on the U.S. government’s bungling response to the UFO phenomenon. How and why the U.S. government—and other governments around the world—have dealt with the UFO phenomenon during most of a century is the focus of this historical inquiry. We cover a lot of ground in this episode including the real-life x-files, how many sightings are legitimate and the most convincing, the element 115, the government, and the future with aliens. See more from Robert Powell Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/explorescu/  Twitter: https://twitter.com/explorescu?lang=en  Website: https://www.explorescu.org/    Further Reading and Resources: This episode is based on Chariots of the Gods by Erich von Däniken's and can be purchased here. UFOs and Government: A Historical Inquiry by Michael Swords and Robert Powell     Follow Widdershins and please Rate and Review us in your favourite Podcast app so others can easily find Widdershins! Visit our website: www.widdershinspodcast.com/ for member-only access and merchandise Facebook: www.facebook.com/WiddershinsPodcast/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/WiddershinsP Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/widdershins_podcast/ Email us: connect@widdershinspodcast.com   Widdershins proudly uses the services of Letitia Stafford – The Ultimate Podcasting Virtual Assistant