Whitney Vale is the author of two chapbooks, Journey with the Ferry Man, and her latest, Sermon of Swallows, which is out now. Her poetry and prose have been published in Anti-Heroin Chic, Rogue Agent, Black Fork Review, and The Rumpus, among many others. In today’s episode, Whitney and Annmarie discuss the joy of a creative life, the pain of beginning again, and what it might look like if we committed ourselves to filling the world with just a little more beauty. Bookstore Spotlights: Newtonville Books – An independent bookstore located at 10 Langley Rd, in Newton, Massachusetts -- in the old stone building at the north corner of the triangle parking lot. Come for the books. Stay for the books. Learn more and shop online at newtonvillebooks.com. Carmichael's Bookstores – In Louisville, Kentucky. From the very beginning Carmichael’s has been committed to being a community gathering place, open seven days a week and every evening. Our stores are in neighborhoods that hum with activity—walkers, joggers, dogs and children, families and couples—lively streetscapes never darkened by the shadow of a big box store. Carmichael’s is actively committed to Keeping Louisville Weird and spreading the word about the importance of buying from locally-owned businesses. Stop by any of our locations or shop online at carmichaelsbookstore.com Authors and Titles Mentioned in This Episode: Journey with the Ferry Man Sermon of Swallows Kelli Russell Agodon Beth Ann Fennelly  Maggie Smith  Ada Limón Kathleen Driskell  Sarah Freligh Alison Hurwitz Kristi Maxwell Lung Hours, by Jessica Purdy Diane Seuss Aimee Nezhukumatathil Joy Harjo Follow Whitney Vale: Instagram: @whitneyvale Facebook: @whitneyvale whitneyvale.org **Writing Workshops:  If you liked this conversation and are interested in writing together, please consider the opportunities below.  For women interested in an online Saturday morning writing circle, you can sign up here.  For anyone interested in an August weekday accountability hour, you can sign up here.  For anyone looking for support writing their memoir, Annmarie is teaching a class here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices